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If there are any players looking for art work to be done...they can contact me here or in game. I would prefer a post here of the description of the Item or Avy you would like me to draw for you... as always I prefer to discuss payment..if any..only after the Item has been drawn and meets your approval...You can always decline if it does not. I will do only LIMITTED revisions...

If you are new to MD and/or you have little to offer in way of payment, prices will vary ...and some I will do for free...so don't be afraid to ask.

BlackThorn

A note to anyone reading this thread:

I work on many avatars at a time, and some, just finish themselves...others take longer, not neccessarily because they are more difficult...but because the muse hasn't struck just yet....I have learned that if I push too hard...the drawing doesn't come out very well. I hope you all will try to understand. I'm a Toaist and I believe that art like life flows from the source and follows it's own path. Nothing is more beautiful to me than an uncarved block. That is why I love the challanges you provide to me...and as always...I prefer you describe the avy to me...rather than showing me a picture....Pictures tend to retard the artistic process by forcing form upon an unrealised idea...I literally have to forget what I saw before I can begin to draw again...If you are not certain of exactly what you want me to draw...then be general..and let me know to do it how ever I want...thats ok too....and don't worry about feeling obligated to buy it once I finish....If you don't want it...np...I will just place it hear in this thread for sale or sell it to the shop. Honesty is the best form of praise any artist can hope for because it praises the artist not their art...while it is very nice to hear that people like what I draw, when someone tells me something that they don't like about a drawing, like Couriose and Chewy did before, I know that they care enough to help me to grow and become better...
Price is also not very important to me...I know that previously some of my avys were selling for quite a bit of Gold...but what I really want is to provide avys that will enhance your enjoyment of the game. If you can afford to pay...great! If not, that's ok too. so don't let price be the reason you don't ask me to draw for you. Thanks for reading this...BT


THERE ARE AVATARS FOR SALE OR TRADE ON PAGE 2 OF THIS THREAD


For Ravenstrider...Oh, and it was free, because he made me laugh.
this second one is going to the shop...unless anyone wants it?

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A knightly man, wearing a white cloak with a sheathed sword on a sword belt. Shield is optional. Some small details on the cloak (so it won't be completely white) would be great, it's up to you! About the stance, maybe something mysterious or noble (or both), not offensive at all.

Hope that is a good description.

Thanks in advance.


~Aelis

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~artist's description~

A young man in the prime of his youth, grinning. contrary to his cloak almost shrouding his face and a bit of heavy armor plating showing, he exudes a very light aura. he embarrasingly covers the right side of his face with his right hand. on that hand there is a ring showing, where the MD mark should be. because his right eye is covered by his hand, only the left eye is visible and is staring at the viewer.

(view is chest and above, like he's sitting, right hand resting on a table, but the legs and the table arent in the avy.)

there. I hope I have provided enough detail. Thank you very very much. :)

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[quote name='adiomino' timestamp='1300842729' post='81130']
Posted description as instructed:

A clay model of a dovewing with a light shining directly overhead it. The shape of the dovewing is up to you, the artist.

The angle is also up to you.

Thank you Blackthorn!
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Thank you I will begin working on it

[quote name='Aelis' timestamp='1300847185' post='81133']
A knightly man, wearing a white cloak with a sheathed sword on a sword belt. Shield is optional. Some small details on the cloak (so it won't be completely white) would be great, it's up to you! About the stance, maybe something mysterious or noble (or both), not offensive at all.

Hope that is a good description.

Thanks in advance.


~Aelis
[/quote]


A fine description, Thnak you. I will start on it right away.

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[quote name='Mith' timestamp='1300877895' post='81142']
~artist's description~

A young man in the prime of his youth, grinning. contrary to his cloak almost shrouding his face and a bit of heavy armor plating showing, he exudes a very light aura. he embarrasingly covers the right side of his face with his right hand. on that hand there is a ring showing, where the MD mark should be. because his right eye is covered by his hand, only the left eye is visible and is staring at the viewer.

(view is chest and above, like he's sitting, right hand resting on a table, but the legs and the table arent in the avy.)

there. I hope I have provided enough detail. Thank you very very much. :)
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A challenging request...I have never drawn an avy that was not head to toe...so to speak...this will allow for more detail...which in turn will take more time to complete. Still I accept your commision...and I would like you to contact me soon on YM...so that I can periodically show you the piece as I draw it...so as not to waste your time or mine with a drawing that would be unacceptable. bardofloreroot@yahoo.com
Thank You.



I am afraid I must admit defeat...I did my best but could not draw to your exact specifications...my applologies...but here is what I was able to come up with...let me know if it meets with your approval.

P.S. I was told by a very good, if not a little new, friend of mine here in MD...that I need to learn to use my Gimp better...and so to that end, I reworked the drawing in Gimp...and I have to agree...Gimp is pretty cool....Won't be giving up miy pencil anytime soon though. new version uploaded...old one tossed.

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[quote name='adiomino' timestamp='1300842729' post='81130']
Posted description as instructed:

A clay model of a dovewing with a light shining directly overhead it. The shape of the dovewing is up to you, the artist.

The angle is also up to you.

Thank you Blackthorn!
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Let me know if this will work for you...

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I am too young in the realm to have anything valuable that could be a payment to anyone.
I am also too young to have access to the avy through the shop (I'm not even sure I have understood how it works, between the avy shop and the personal avys... will have to look into it one day!)

But yet I am thinking of an avatar for the future. Please don't work on it yet, but maybe you could think of it and let me know if that makes sense and seems feasible ? Then hopefully one day when I grow up, I will ask you about it.

Thanks!

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Artist's description

Mandatory requirement:
Compatible with MDs avatars requirements.
It is a young man (could even be a teenager or a child if that's easyer) carrying a ladder on his back.
He has his head turned up, as if he was looking for something in the sky.
He is physically weak, so he should be rather thin. He may be tall if that makes him look weaker

Optional
He looks either frightened or surprised... or a mix of both.
In my mind, he is sideways, but it is not a requirement. The artist shall decide what to do to express what is in the mandatory requirements.


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EDited for God's sake! (not sure what happened, but my post was totally messed up...)

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[quote name='Aelis' timestamp='1300847185' post='81133']
A knightly man, wearing a white cloak with a sheathed sword on a sword belt. Shield is optional. Some small details on the cloak (so it won't be completely white) would be great, it's up to you! About the stance, maybe something mysterious or noble (or both), not offensive at all.

Hope that is a good description.

Thanks in advance.


~Aelis
[/quote]

Let me know if this works for you? Sent To the shop.

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Oh my god, the cloak looks totally awesome!! The only thing is that I guess he's way too muscular, perhaps you can change that? And can you make the cloak cover more of his body? Perhaps even remove the armor and the sword and focus on the cloak :D (As you might have noticed, I really liked it)

I hope that can be done!

Thanks in advance.


~Aelis

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[quote name='Aelis' timestamp='1300986494' post='81257']
Oh my god, the cloak looks totally awesome!! The only thing is that I guess he's way too muscular, perhaps you can change that? And can you make the cloak cover more of his body? Perhaps even remove the armor and the sword and focus on the cloak :D (As you might have noticed, I really liked it)

I hope that can be done!

Thanks in advance.


~Aelis
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No problem...I will send this one and the other knight I drew to the shop....and try again.

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[quote name='Passant the Weak' timestamp='1300958845' post='81231']
I am too young in the realm to have anything valuable that could be a payment to anyone.
I am also too young to have access to the avy through the shop (I'm not even sure I have understood how it works, between the avy shop and the personal avys... will have to look into it one day!)

But yet I am thinking of an avatar for the future. Please don't work on it yet, but maybe you could think of it and let me know if that makes sense and seems feasible ? Then hopefully one day when I grow up, I will ask you about it.

Thanks!

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Artist's description

Mandatory requirement:
Compatible with MDs avatars requirements.
It is a young man (could even be a teenager or a child if that's easyer) carrying a ladder on his back.
He has his head turned up, as if he was looking for something in the sky.
He is physically weak, so he should be rather thin. He may be tall if that makes him look weaker

Optional
He looks either frightened or surprised... or a mix of both.
In my mind, he is sideways, but it is not a requirement. The artist shall decide what to do to express what is in the mandatory requirements.


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EDited for God's sake! (not sure what happened, but my post was totally messed up...)
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I am afraid I am unaware of exactly how that works...but if you need to unlock that feature in the shop, come back when you are ready and I would be happy to draw for you. perhaps someone else could comment on the requirements...does he have to unlock the shop avatar choice before he can receive a transfere avy?

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[quote name='Sunfire' timestamp='1301000050' post='81280']
can you draw me a Pyromancer
a youngaged man +/- 28 years (not too young, not old)
in a traditional magiciens robe
with a arragant smile and a bit know-it-all look

ask if you need more details
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I would be most pleased to...Thank You

[quote name='Amoran Kalamanira Kol' timestamp='1301014357' post='81288']
Amazing artwork as always, Thorn. I may suggest something to you soon.
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Thanks Amoran...I have the approved avy that we drew together...I'm usually at the Dome...come by and pick it up.

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[quote name='Ravenstrider' timestamp='1300995857' post='81275']
You can have an avatar in your vault before unlocking the feature, but sadly you can't use it.

In order to use an avatar, you need to unlock the feature in the Extra Features branch of the MD shop...
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Thanks for the clarification Ravenstrider. The feature is within sight. However I am not sure how long I will take to reach it. ;)

Blackthorn, thanks for your reply (I shall come back to you later) and really a big bravo for your work. Amazing result... in a incredible short delay.

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[quote name='Blackthorn' timestamp='1300919984' post='81188']
A challenging request...I have never drawn an avy that was not head to toe...so to speak...this will allow for more detail...which in turn will take more time to complete. Still I accept your commision...and I would like you to contact me soon on YM...so that I can periodically show you the piece as I draw it...so as not to waste your time or mine with a drawing that would be unacceptable. bardofloreroot@yahoo.com
Thank You.



I am afraid I must admit defeat...I did my best but could not draw to your exact specifications...my applologies...but here is what I was able to come up with...let me know if it meets with your approval.

P.S. I was told by a very good, if not a little new, friend of mine here in MD...that I need to learn to use my Gimp better...and so to that end, I reworked the drawing in Gimp...and I have to agree...Gimp is pretty cool....Won't be giving up miy pencil anytime soon though. new version uploaded...old one tossed.
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I'll send some critiques to you over PM. :D

If you ever need more challenges, I'd be happy to think of some more.

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[quote name='Mith' timestamp='1301058932' post='81311']
I'll send some critiques to you over PM. :D

If you ever need more challenges, I'd be happy to think of some more.
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I would like to add your comments from the PM you sent me to this post....If I am out of order or something then please let chewie know so he can edit this out...but I am doing so so that others can understand something about the process, and what they can expect should they decide to ask for my services.

pm from Mith follows: "First of all, I really really like it its one of the best avatars I've seen so far (but then again, my experience on avatars have only been limited to those with them. ). Now, on to the critiques. I've outlined them as they go in my head, so I'll try to organize them a bit.


Major points:
-I like the symmetry and the overall physique of the character.
-the nose is too big, or too flat.
-I really love how you've drawn the cloak to compensate how I wanted the arm to be drawn.
-I don't know if you've made it intentional, but when you look close at the character, you'll prolly say in your mind that he's a nice guy with that nice smile, but if you look at it from a distance, it looks almost sinister. I LIKE.
-What's it holding? a scroll? a stick? an ice cream cone? I don't know what it is. (I think it's a vial that the character drunk from though.)


minor points:
-too... many.. belts! LOL, I am fat IRL, but having three belts to fasten my armor is a bit too much.
-you may want to lower the eyes a micrometer lower. though doing that may make my forehead big. your call.
-The design on the circle and the lining of the cloak is superb.
-looks like a paladin. ever played Diablo 2?
-you no longer need to put the larger MD sign. the ring says it all.
-is the mouth really a bit slanted? maybe it's because of the cloak shrouding the face so It doesn't look straight to me.

other stuff:
-If you ever get the chance to draw the missing hand, remember that it's the one making a facepalm. and it has the ring. the left hand, then should be doing the right hand's position, and the right hand's making the facepalm.


well, that's mostly it. I hope you don't take critiques personally, but seeing as you're already a celebrated artiste of MD, I guess you're used to it. "

And My responce: "I appreciate your criticism...but remember, no matter how many times I draw something it will never match what picture you hold in your head.

The question is: Is this avy close enough?

If not I will sell it so someone else or to the shop.
If it is please let me know and I will upload it for approval.

While your points are well received...I would like to go over each with you.

The nose appears that way because of the angle of his face...ie...hiding under the hood of his cloak.

it is a glass of loreroot whiskey...or whatever else you enjoy drinking.

the belts are part of his armor called a Fauld...and I would have put even more belts if the arm were not there. lol

the larger MD sign is because in the final scale of the avy...100x160pix that level of detail is lost...It has to be larger to meet approval guidelines

The avy's right is your left...I used the hood to hide HIS right side of face and placed the ring on HIS right side....but if you would like I can easily flip it to the other side before sending to approval.

the Mouth is crooked...and yes it is intentional...it adds interest and the illusion of nice guy/very cautious guy...the sinister part is because of the shading of his eyes...all of which you specified in your description.

Thank you for all your comments...as I said I really do appreciate feedback from those I draw for..

BT"

I hope this will help others in ordering their art work...and also on understanding what they should expect...I cannot draw what is in your head...I can only draw what is in mine...and sometimes not even that...lol

Thank you again Mith...and I hope you will accept the avy.












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[font="Palatino Linotype"]Hello Blackthorn,

If I may request an avatar to and let you know now, I have 4 silver coins left and I hope this is okay. Thank You, I enjoy the art that comes through you.

Description:A Female Samurai with long black hair, wind blowing it across her face and sword drawn as if she has just used it and so that one can see the the blade. You can see a small bird that lands on the tip of the blade wings stretched as she holds it.
Same outfit as a regular Samurai except the hair.

Many thanks in advance, I appreciate it![/font]

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I should be the one thanking you, You gave my character form!

And I only contacted you through PM because I'd rather keep those thoughts privately. no harm showing them to the public though. :)

Yes, for me, it would be better if you flipped it, [s]and you could just keep the hand closed instead of it holding something.[/s]
scratch that. the ring wouldn't be visible if you did that. :P I wonder what it should be holding though.

And of course I'll accept it. :P

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[quote name='ZenTao' timestamp='1301095570' post='81328']
[font="Palatino Linotype"]Hello Blackthorn,

If I may request an avatar to and let you know now, I have 4 silver coins left and I hope this is okay. Thank You, I enjoy the art that comes through you.

Description:A Female Samurai with long black hair, wind blowing it across her face and sword drawn as if she has just used it and so that one can see the the blade. You can see a small bird that lands on the tip of the blade wings stretched as she holds it.
Same outfit as a regular Samurai except the hair.

Many thanks in advance, I appreciate it![/font]
[/quote]


I would be honored...and a fine choice too.

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I received this PM for a request. I Don't mind pm's, but I would prefer to have all requests in one place...I almost didn't draw this because I simply missed it...Which would have been a shame because I really like the way this one turned out....instead of massive drawing, shading, erasing and re-drawing that I usually do, I decided to try and use Gimp more, so after a rough drawing...almost no erasing..i have completed this request almost completely with Gimp...please let me know what you think. BT

"I prefered to pm you. I hope its ok. I am a new player and 2 days away from unlocking the avy thing. Though i would like you to draw it.

My idea is a tall serious dressed man, with a grin, without motion just his one hand extended with a deck of cards. Like its offering the cards. Kind of a serious con man type of thing with a deck of cards.Dark serious clothes, preferrably black and stuff, and his hair should look serious, but not too much. I hope you get the idea.
I can probably take a loan depending on your price.
Thanks in advance"


Take a Card....Any Card. LOL By request a second version..ooooo look triplets..lol

Unfortunately Mur did not approve this avy...I will have to adjust the original hand drawn avy and submit without the Gimp manipulations. I will post it once ready. Or if you prefer I can try drawing a completely new avy...let me know which you would prefer.

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I don't mean to critique...

But, I like it but what I don't like is how using gimp gives it a sense of... artificiality so to speak. Personally... I like your drawings as they are. You can see the work put into them, you can see the realism and not something artificially created.

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