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This is the official thread for the co-operation and deception anniversary game. Pre-registration was here, and is now closed.

To summarize:

  • Each player is given a character/role card
  • Each player goal is to deduct/guess other's role via any mean necessary
  • Communication, alliance, betrayal, lies, etc. are encouraged
  • Straight-up role sharing is not encouraged, each player is expected to try their hardest to win the game. I will not enforce this, but please keep it interesting and don't ruin the game for others
  • Please keep the game self-contained (e.g no MD item/etc trading for info). Trading the final rewards you may obtain is encouraged however. But so does betraying that promise ;)
  • Each player, at the start of the game, is required to make three statements relevant to the game, rules detailed below

Rule for statements:

  • All statements must be relevant to the game
  • One statement must be true, one statement must be false, and the final, can be either
  • Each player statement must reflect their character knowledge at the start of the game. Any information you may have gained from others cannot be used
  • Statements cannot be obviously true or false. Saying "I'm one of the characters listed" is illegal
  • You must be able to identify the true and false statements that you gave, precisely. Stating a contradiction is fine, but you must be able to tell which is true or false (so no making statements which one must be true and one must be false, but you don't know which is which). The "either" statement does not have to follow this rule, so you can make one that you don't know if it's true or false.
  • General role-related statements are allowed and encouraged (e.g My role commands great power). But they must be made in good faith, and cannot be contestable
  • Making your statement cryptic is encouraged, but again, must be in good faith, and cannot be contestable
  • Statements should be given ASAP. Failure to give your statement within the first 7 days will result in disqualification
  • If you are unsure, feel free to send me a DM of your statements for opinions and approval

Players (11 total):

  • Aia
  • Lashtal
  • Ledah
  • Steno
  • Dark Demon
  • Yokin/Tissy
  • Ailith
  • Sunfire
  • Aelis
  • Jakubhi
  • Mirus

Possible roles (14 total):

  • Priestess
  • Jester
  • King
  • Princess
  • Peasant
  • Knight
  • Bishop
  • General
  • Servant
  • Empress
  • Queen
  • Merchant
  • Captain
  • Footsoldier

Note: The list of character was pre-determined, and roles were assigned via a random number generator. The roles were subjective, but the assignment was not. This is to avoid any possibility that you may try to reverse engineer my mind :)

Reward: Due to the high probability of ties, the game shall operate on a "point" system. These points can be used to purchase your rewards at the end of the game. Points can be traded to other players freely, as part of agreements during games ;). Point trading also work on an honor system, and must be acknowledged by both parties at the end.

Points:

  • All participants will receive 3 points regardless of their placement
  • All participants who deducted more than half will be rewarded an extra 2 points
  • The rewards for the top players shall be as follow: 18 / 15 / 12 / 4
  • If multiple people draw for the top spot, the points that those positions gave out will be summed up and divided equally (e.g if 3-6th draw (12 + 4) / 4 = 4 each)

Reward shop:

  • Anni creature: 15 points - Traded points cannot be used (must won at least 15 points via the game). Special exceptions may be given in case of draws.
  • Plushies: 1 point - Limit of 8
  • 2 Silver coins: 1 point
  • Ghost spellstone: 1 point - Limit of 2
  • Toadspeech spellstone: 1 point - Limit of 2
  • Acoustic remains spellstone: 1 point - Limit of 2
  • TBD
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List of given statements:

Aia

  • I am a chess piece
  • My role is exclusively female
  • I am the captain

Lashtal

  • In Hell, my role is played by Furcas
  • I’m at the top of the hierarchy
  • I can be white, black or purple

Ledah

  • I am typically a woman
  • I am typically a man
  • I am the footsoldier

Steno

  • A burden I carry like no other
  • I am the poorest of them all
  • I neither give nor receive any reprive

Dark Demon

  • Without me, there is no ruler
  • Without me, there is no kingdom
  • I do not bow before anyone

Yokin/Tissy

  • The kingdom will fall without me
  • I serve no people
  • I'm a chess piece

Ailith

  • My work is important but I have no power
  • I may express my thoughts freely
  • Loyalty and discretion are most desirable for someone in my role

Sunfire

  • Bells are a big part of my life
  • My outfit really stands out
  • I'm a person of high standing

Aelis

  • My gender cannot be inferred from my role
  • I'm not royalty
  • I'm not expected to use weapons

Jakubhi

  • I am seldomly seen on land
  • My task revolves around hard labor
  • None surpasses my authority

Mirus

 

Public statements - these are screenshots, pictures of conversations, public gathering for discussions, contact info (of yourself only), other clues, statements, etc. relevant to the game that a player may submit for all to see. Please either PM me or post it here if you wish to make a public statement. Public statements can be made anonymously (via PM). There are almost no rule to what statement can be made, including those that demerit the credibility of a player. Please however, use your common sense to determine the appropriate boundaries

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Statements may be posted now. Please do so ASAP. Failure to post a statement within 7 days will result in disqualification.

 

Statements may be sent and confirmed via PM, after which I can post it here on your behalf.

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ah, we do, I'll update it now. Only Mirus statement is missing, tryin to track him down

Queen and Empress differs on wordings, perhaps. Empress, would be a more clear-cut position of power, whereas a Queen is more ambiguous. A Queen may rule, or may just be the King's wife.

One is also a chess piece, whereas the other is not :)

 

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6 minutes ago, Demonic God said:

Mirus was disqualified due to inactivity/not giving statements

To compensate for other players, I shall name three statement in his place:

  • I am a man of great status
  • My richness knows no bound
  • Soldiers bow before me

Are you able to exchange statements? Or that’s all about Mirus?

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34 minutes ago, Demonic God said:

exchange? well, you are supposed to talk and figuring out who everyone is...

and those are about mirus

We would exchange some general information to narrow down the options. 
as there would no further communication with Mirus’ role, would you share more information about this role. Such as how many statements are true or false? It’s male or female. Otherwise with or without these statements doesn’t make difference. 

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  • 3 weeks later...
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well, this is a bit late, since I did have a lot to do. Sorry!

I'll tally up the point sometimes within the next few days, but here are the official role list!

Aia            -        Captain
Lashtal        -        Bishop
Ledah        -        Queen
Dark Demon    -        Peasant
Tissy        -        Footsoldier
Ailith        -        Servant
Sunfire        -        Jester
Aelis        -        Princess
Jakubhi        -        Empress
Mirus        -        Merchant
Steno        -        King
Knight
Priestess
General

 

Special note to Aia, as she managed to deceive all submission thus far, despite listing her role as the truth statement!

Also special note to Aelis, whose guesses were quite... close to the mark, but ever so far!

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  • 3 weeks later...
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Apologies for the long delay. Here are the final results of the quest:

Submission

Aia
Sunfire            -        Jester            -        1
Jakubhi            -        King            -        0
Steno            -        Peasant            -        0
lashtal            -        Knight            -        0
Tissy            -        Bishop            -        0
Ailith            -        Servant            -        1
Aelis            -        Empress            -        0
Demon            -        Queen            -        0
Mirus            -        Merchant        -        1
Ledah            -        Footsoldier     -        0
Total- 3

Steno
Aia                -        Princess        -        0
Lashtal            -        Knight            -        0
Ledah            -        footsoldier        -        0
DD                -        Peasant            -        1
Tissy            -        Queen            -        0
Ailith            -        Sservant        -        1
Sunfire            -        Jester            -        1
Aelis            -        Merchant        -        0
Jakubhi            -        Empress            -        1
Mirus            -        General            -        0
Total- 4


Aelis
Aia                -        Bishop            -        0
Lashtal            -        Queen            -        0
Ledah            -        Captain            -        0
Steno            -        Footsoldier        -        0
Dark Demon        -        King            -        0
Yokin/Tissy        -        Knight            -        0
Ailith            -        Servant            -        1
Sunfire            -        Jester            -        1
Jakubhi            -        Empress            -        1
Mirus            -        General            -        0
Total- 3


Ailith
Aia                -        Princess        -        0
Lashtal            -        Bishop            -        1
Tissy            -        King            -        0
Ledah            -        Knight            -        0
Steno            -        Footsoldier        -        0
DD                -        Peasant            -        1
Jak                -        Captain            -        0
Mirus            -        Merchant        -        1
Sunfire            -        Jester            -        1
Aelis            -        Queen             -        0
Total- 4

Lastal
Aia                -            Priestess    -        0
Jakubhi            -            Empress        -        1
Yokin/Tissy        -            Knight        -        0
Mirus            -            General        -        0
Sunfire            -            Jester        -        1
Dark Demon        -            Queen        -        0
Steno            -            Peasant        -        0
Ailith            -            Merchant    -        0
Aelis            -            Princess    -        1
Ledah            -            Captain     -        0
Total- 3

Tissy
Aia                -            Knight        -        0
lashtal            -            Bishop        -        1
Ledah            -            Priestess    -        0
Steno            -            Queen        -        0
Dark Demon        -            Peasant        -        1
Ailith            -            Servant        -        1
Sunfire            -            Jester        -        1
Aelis            -            Captain        -        0
jakubhi            -            King        -        0
Mirus            -            General        -         0
Total- 4


Ledah
Aia                -        Priestess        -        0
Sunfire            -        Jester            -        1
Dark Demon        -        Knight            -        0
Jakubhi            -        Peasant            -        0
Lashtal            -        Knight            -        0
Tissy            -        Bishop            -        0
Steno            -        General            -        0
Mirus            -        Merchant        -        1
Aelis            -        Captain            -        0
Ailith            -        Footsoldier        -        0

The total award points are as follow:

1st/2nd/3rd Tied! Steno, Ailith and Tissy all receive18 spending points!

4th/5th/6th Tied! Aia, Aelis and Lastal all receive 4 spending points!

7th: Ledah won the 7th spot :P, he shall receive 3 spending points

Since I did not receive submission from Dark Demon, Sunfire, or Jakubhi, they are disqualified for the rewards

Please PM/reply here to let me know what reward do you desire

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Thanks DG :D

Interesting that I found all the roles we had communication with went to the wrong place eventually...

(I exchanged more info with lashtal, Aia, jakubhi, Steno. but I decided lashtal's role before the exchange)

But I'm still confused about your statement on Mirus. which one is true?

it's 6 points for each right?

I would prefer spell stones and plushies. 1 of each spell and 3 plushies.

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2 hours ago, Tissy said:

Thanks DG :D

Interesting that I found all the roles we had communication with went to the wrong place eventually...

(I exchanged more info with lashtal, Aia, jakubhi, Steno. but I decided lashtal's role before the exchange)

But I'm still confused about your statement on Mirus. which one is true?

it's 6 points for each right?

I would prefer spell stones and plushies. 1 of each spell and 3 plushies.

Nope, you, Steno and Ailith each have 18 points to spend. This was engineered so the top places can get an anni if they choose to.

For mirus:

  • I am a man of great status - Purposely ambiguous, a merchant may or may not be seen as a great status
  • My richness knows no bound - This would be true, referring to wealth in general. A merchant can safely be associated with great wealth
  • Soldiers bow before me - False. This statement implies a position over the military.
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I would like 8 plushies, 2 acoustic remains, 2 toadspeech,  2 ghost, and 8 silver.

 

I would like to add that I am most in favor of the way you have set-up the reward system for this quest.

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