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    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Ackshan Bemunah in Beautiful Poetry   
    Some know but most do not that my wife and I recently had our first child, a wonderful little boy. Before he was born we had this poem engraved, along with his name, on a wooden plaque which now hangs on the wall of his room. I came to find out shortly thereafter that my father also dedicated the poem to me before I was born. Not only is it a wonderful piece, it holds great meaning for me personally.

    So, I've chosen to revive this thread by posting "If" by Rudyard Kipling

    [quote]If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
    Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

    If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    And treat those two imposters just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
    And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breath a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
    Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
    And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son![/quote]
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    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Nimrodel in Beautiful Poetry   
    I ask you to please post poetry or prose that you find to be inspiring, despairing, breathtaking, or simply worthy of being read so that others may enjoy them also.

    Here are a few of my favorites:

    E.E. Cummings - being to timelessness as it's to time,
    [quote]
    being to timelessness as it's to time,
    love did no more begin than love will end:
    where nothing is to breathe to stroll to swim
    love is the air the ocean and the land

    (do lovers suffer?all divinities
    proudly descending put on deathful flesh:
    are lovers glad?only their smallest joy's
    a universe emerging from a wish)

    love is the voice under all silences,
    the hope which has no opposite in fear:
    the strength so strong mere force is feebleness:
    the truth more first than sun more last than star

    - -do lovers love?why then to heaven with hell.
    whatever sages say and fools,all's well
    [/quote]

    John McCrae - In Flanders Fields
    [quote]
    In Flanders fields the poppies blow
    Between the crosses, row on row
    That mark our place; and in the sky
    The larks, still bravely singing, fly
    Scarce heard amid the guns below.

    We are the Dead. Short days ago
    We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
    Loved and were loved, and now we lie
    In Flanders fields.

    Take up our quarrel with the foe:
    To you from failing hands we throw
    The torch; be yours to hold it high.
    If ye break faith with us who die
    We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
    In Flanders fields.[/quote]

    Lord Byron - When We Two Parted
    [quote]
    When we two parted
    In silence and tears,
    Half broken-hearted,
    To sever for years,
    Pale grew thy cheek and cold,
    Colder thy kiss;
    Truly that hour foretold
    Sorrow to this.

    The dew of the morning
    Sank chill on my brow—
    It felt like the warning
    Of what I feel now.
    Thy vows are all broken,
    And light is thy fame:
    I hear thy name spoken,
    And share in its shame.

    They name thee before me,
    A knell to mine ear;
    A shudder comes o'er me—
    Why wert thou so dear?
    They know not I knew thee,
    Who knew thee too well:—
    Long, long shall I rue thee
    Too deeply to tell.

    In secret we met—
    In silence I grieve
    That thy heart could forget,
    Thy spirit deceive.
    If I should meet thee
    After long years,
    How should I greet thee?—
    With silence and tears.[/quote]

    W.H. Auden - Funeral Blues
    [quote]
    Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,
    Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
    Silence the pianos and with muffled drum
    Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.

    Let aeroplanes circle moaning overhead
    Scribbling on the sky the message He is Dead.
    Put crepe bows round the white necks of the public doves,
    Let the traffic policemen wear black cotton gloves.

    He was my North, my South, my East and West,
    My working week and my Sunday rest,
    My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
    I thought that love would last forever: I was wrong.

    The stars are not wanted now; put out every one,
    Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun,
    Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods;
    For nothing now can ever come to any good.[/quote]
  3. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Phantom Orchid in Poems and Songs for Bob   
    Once reasoned men's appeals were lost on me
    why they should life repeal for such as thee,
    with fragile limbs so scarce to even bloom,
    and call thee by such famed non de plume,
    why one and all their heart's compassion flows
    as water from their hands in your repose,
    and how they rationed actions to be good
    which lessened lives of men to that of wood,
    but now it is in wisdom that I see
    that things are sometimes more than what they seem,
    and now it is in truth that I should know
    that yours is but a symbol born of hope.


    Edit:
    Whether out of coincidence or something more, Bob began to bloom immediately after my recital of this to him. I had always thought Z was crazy...
  4. Downvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Watcher in Poems and Songs for Bob   
    Once reasoned men's appeals were lost on me
    why they should life repeal for such as thee,
    with fragile limbs so scarce to even bloom,
    and call thee by such famed non de plume,
    why one and all their heart's compassion flows
    as water from their hands in your repose,
    and how they rationed actions to be good
    which lessened lives of men to that of wood,
    but now it is in wisdom that I see
    that things are sometimes more than what they seem,
    and now it is in truth that I should know
    that yours is but a symbol born of hope.


    Edit:
    Whether out of coincidence or something more, Bob began to bloom immediately after my recital of this to him. I had always thought Z was crazy...
  5. Downvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Pipstickz in Discussion about reviving MD   
    [quote name='Jester' date='17 February 2010 - 06:18 PM' timestamp='1266448726' post='54652']
    A player trying to revive MD is like trying to revive a person who is drowning by throwing a bucket of water at their face.


    EDIT: To expand on that, I didn't mean players shouldn't try to make the game more fun. I simply meant that MD wouldn't be MD without Mur, and only Mur could "revive" the game.
    [/quote]
    I'd expect more wisdom from a king...and less somber from a clown.

    This game [b]IS[/b] its community of players. They create their own excitement through creative quests and roleplay, and, while Mur and the AL provide a focused outlet, neither are entirely necessary for the society to peaceably operate. Player involvement and player motivation are lacking as much if not more so than the same from Mur.
  6. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Peace in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    [quote name='Atrumist' timestamp='1289337070' post='71773']
    So you are against about how is she called in this situation, or you are against with how or why is she accused of? False or ambiguously?
    [/quote]
    The actions of a king or a leader should never be, and are never, observed at face value. The fact that Pample may or may not have been plotting treason is absolutely important. However, the related facts aren't open for discussion and neither will they be determined within this thread. What we can glean from it, however, is a sense of Jester's capacity for diplomacy and his abilities to lead and to unify a nation of people.

    So, let's look into that shall we?

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']
    This experiment did not work.[/quote]
    Right out of the gates something as important as the appointment and inauguration of a king's equal is likened to a rash and hastily conducted experiment. At least he apologizes for it...

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']It was my fault for treating pamplemousse like an equal. I did not realize that pamplemousse was the kind of person that is manipulated easily.[/quote]
    Well, which is it then? The king's fault for making such a poor decision or Pample's fault for taking advantage? What began as an appropriate admission of failure quickly became a platform for cowardly ad hominem attacks.

    [quote]Since I was not controlling her, keith decided to. He turned her against me with almost no effort at all.[/quote]
    Once again, this seems like an excellent opportunity to admit wrong and prove to Necrovion that you've learned from the mistake. Why weren't you controlling your own queen? If you couldn't or weren't willing to lead such a powerful and prominent figure, why should anyone assume you could govern a kingdom?

    [quote]pample is far too weak to be a queen or any type of leadership position.

    I had high hopes for her, and she trashed them because keith moon told to her to.[/quote]
    And it concludes with more slander and ad hominem. Nothing of the future. Nothing of repairing damage done or the glory that is yet to belong to such a deserving people. Only embarrassment.
  7. Downvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Watcher in Guys Only Quest   
    [quote name='Fyrd Argentus' timestamp='1288713671' post='71340']
    My mustache is older (33) than the average MD player, so I'm gonna pass on this one... though I have bought 3 copies of the Big Book on prostate cancer and given/loaned them all out.
    [/quote]
    I'd say your mustache is older than the average...mustache. 33? I don't know whether to commend you, commit you, or recommend a nice shampoo/conditioner blend.
  8. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut reacted to Chewett in Conspiracy Theories   
    32) being able to count isnt compulsory, Rheagar did perfectly well without it
  9. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut reacted to Fyrd Argentus in Conspiracy Theories   
    The following ideas might be true, but there is no evidence that they are. They are presented for your amusement - reader beware. Please add your own to this growing list.

    1. The Multi-Window alert is actually an advanced level spell used by certain players to prevent attacks on them, and to freeze players in place as they breeze past.

    2. The low-grade avatars you see in the shop were NOT selected randomly, but were chosen by a secret committee that is trying to guide your role-playing development.

    3. Alpha-zero is actually a code for, "I don't like your work".

    4. Your regen timer display is actually manipulated by an advanced spell used by certain players trying to prevent your use of bursts.

    5. There are only six real players in this game, and two are on vacation.

    6. This entire realm is actually an experimental project of the University of Romania's Psychology Department.

    7. Understanding of the rules is carefully monitored. When average comprehension reaches a certain index level, the rules are changed.

    8. See your ID number? There really are that many people who have joined MD prior to you, and they almost all are getting updates on your mistakes and screw-ups. Only those who remain active in the game do NOT get these updates.

    9. Mur is really Elvis.

    10. The game is NOT run out of Romainia, it is run by space aliens studying earth culture.

    11. The game is actually an attempt by islamic extremeists to undermine western productivity by drawing off the creative thinkers from the western work force.

    12. You're missing all the really good stuff - the party keeps shifting away from wherever it is you are logged on.

    13. This post was not made by Fyrd Argentus, but rather by another player of the same name.
  10. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut reacted to Granos in My Claim   
    The God King shall spare you then.... Blessings of myself upon you... Unlike the one form of opposition which seemed to have mysteriously disappeared..
  11. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Yala Sviseusen in Beautiful Poetry   
    Some know but most do not that my wife and I recently had our first child, a wonderful little boy. Before he was born we had this poem engraved, along with his name, on a wooden plaque which now hangs on the wall of his room. I came to find out shortly thereafter that my father also dedicated the poem to me before I was born. Not only is it a wonderful piece, it holds great meaning for me personally.

    So, I've chosen to revive this thread by posting "If" by Rudyard Kipling

    [quote]If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
    Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

    If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    And treat those two imposters just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
    And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breath a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
    Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
    And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son![/quote]
  12. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Atrumist in Beautiful Poetry   
    Some know but most do not that my wife and I recently had our first child, a wonderful little boy. Before he was born we had this poem engraved, along with his name, on a wooden plaque which now hangs on the wall of his room. I came to find out shortly thereafter that my father also dedicated the poem to me before I was born. Not only is it a wonderful piece, it holds great meaning for me personally.

    So, I've chosen to revive this thread by posting "If" by Rudyard Kipling

    [quote]If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
    Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

    If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    And treat those two imposters just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
    And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breath a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
    Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
    And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son![/quote]
  13. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Tarquinus in Beautiful Poetry   
    Some know but most do not that my wife and I recently had our first child, a wonderful little boy. Before he was born we had this poem engraved, along with his name, on a wooden plaque which now hangs on the wall of his room. I came to find out shortly thereafter that my father also dedicated the poem to me before I was born. Not only is it a wonderful piece, it holds great meaning for me personally.

    So, I've chosen to revive this thread by posting "If" by Rudyard Kipling

    [quote]If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
    Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

    If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    And treat those two imposters just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
    And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breath a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
    Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
    And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son![/quote]
  14. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Kyphis the Bard in Guys Only Quest   
    [quote name='Fyrd Argentus' timestamp='1288713671' post='71340']
    My mustache is older (33) than the average MD player, so I'm gonna pass on this one... though I have bought 3 copies of the Big Book on prostate cancer and given/loaned them all out.
    [/quote]
    I'd say your mustache is older than the average...mustache. 33? I don't know whether to commend you, commit you, or recommend a nice shampoo/conditioner blend.
  15. Downvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Pipstickz in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    [quote name='Atrumist' timestamp='1289337070' post='71773']
    So you are against about how is she called in this situation, or you are against with how or why is she accused of? False or ambiguously?
    [/quote]
    The actions of a king or a leader should never be, and are never, observed at face value. The fact that Pample may or may not have been plotting treason is absolutely important. However, the related facts aren't open for discussion and neither will they be determined within this thread. What we can glean from it, however, is a sense of Jester's capacity for diplomacy and his abilities to lead and to unify a nation of people.

    So, let's look into that shall we?

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']
    This experiment did not work.[/quote]
    Right out of the gates something as important as the appointment and inauguration of a king's equal is likened to a rash and hastily conducted experiment. At least he apologizes for it...

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']It was my fault for treating pamplemousse like an equal. I did not realize that pamplemousse was the kind of person that is manipulated easily.[/quote]
    Well, which is it then? The king's fault for making such a poor decision or Pample's fault for taking advantage? What began as an appropriate admission of failure quickly became a platform for cowardly ad hominem attacks.

    [quote]Since I was not controlling her, keith decided to. He turned her against me with almost no effort at all.[/quote]
    Once again, this seems like an excellent opportunity to admit wrong and prove to Necrovion that you've learned from the mistake. Why weren't you controlling your own queen? If you couldn't or weren't willing to lead such a powerful and prominent figure, why should anyone assume you could govern a kingdom?

    [quote]pample is far too weak to be a queen or any type of leadership position.

    I had high hopes for her, and she trashed them because keith moon told to her to.[/quote]
    And it concludes with more slander and ad hominem. Nothing of the future. Nothing of repairing damage done or the glory that is yet to belong to such a deserving people. Only embarrassment.
  16. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Eon in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    [quote name='Atrumist' timestamp='1289337070' post='71773']
    So you are against about how is she called in this situation, or you are against with how or why is she accused of? False or ambiguously?
    [/quote]
    The actions of a king or a leader should never be, and are never, observed at face value. The fact that Pample may or may not have been plotting treason is absolutely important. However, the related facts aren't open for discussion and neither will they be determined within this thread. What we can glean from it, however, is a sense of Jester's capacity for diplomacy and his abilities to lead and to unify a nation of people.

    So, let's look into that shall we?

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']
    This experiment did not work.[/quote]
    Right out of the gates something as important as the appointment and inauguration of a king's equal is likened to a rash and hastily conducted experiment. At least he apologizes for it...

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']It was my fault for treating pamplemousse like an equal. I did not realize that pamplemousse was the kind of person that is manipulated easily.[/quote]
    Well, which is it then? The king's fault for making such a poor decision or Pample's fault for taking advantage? What began as an appropriate admission of failure quickly became a platform for cowardly ad hominem attacks.

    [quote]Since I was not controlling her, keith decided to. He turned her against me with almost no effort at all.[/quote]
    Once again, this seems like an excellent opportunity to admit wrong and prove to Necrovion that you've learned from the mistake. Why weren't you controlling your own queen? If you couldn't or weren't willing to lead such a powerful and prominent figure, why should anyone assume you could govern a kingdom?

    [quote]pample is far too weak to be a queen or any type of leadership position.

    I had high hopes for her, and she trashed them because keith moon told to her to.[/quote]
    And it concludes with more slander and ad hominem. Nothing of the future. Nothing of repairing damage done or the glory that is yet to belong to such a deserving people. Only embarrassment.
  17. Downvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Chewett in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    [quote name='Atrumist' timestamp='1289337070' post='71773']
    So you are against about how is she called in this situation, or you are against with how or why is she accused of? False or ambiguously?
    [/quote]
    The actions of a king or a leader should never be, and are never, observed at face value. The fact that Pample may or may not have been plotting treason is absolutely important. However, the related facts aren't open for discussion and neither will they be determined within this thread. What we can glean from it, however, is a sense of Jester's capacity for diplomacy and his abilities to lead and to unify a nation of people.

    So, let's look into that shall we?

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']
    This experiment did not work.[/quote]
    Right out of the gates something as important as the appointment and inauguration of a king's equal is likened to a rash and hastily conducted experiment. At least he apologizes for it...

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']It was my fault for treating pamplemousse like an equal. I did not realize that pamplemousse was the kind of person that is manipulated easily.[/quote]
    Well, which is it then? The king's fault for making such a poor decision or Pample's fault for taking advantage? What began as an appropriate admission of failure quickly became a platform for cowardly ad hominem attacks.

    [quote]Since I was not controlling her, keith decided to. He turned her against me with almost no effort at all.[/quote]
    Once again, this seems like an excellent opportunity to admit wrong and prove to Necrovion that you've learned from the mistake. Why weren't you controlling your own queen? If you couldn't or weren't willing to lead such a powerful and prominent figure, why should anyone assume you could govern a kingdom?

    [quote]pample is far too weak to be a queen or any type of leadership position.

    I had high hopes for her, and she trashed them because keith moon told to her to.[/quote]
    And it concludes with more slander and ad hominem. Nothing of the future. Nothing of repairing damage done or the glory that is yet to belong to such a deserving people. Only embarrassment.
  18. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from pamplemousse in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    [quote name='Atrumist' timestamp='1289337070' post='71773']
    So you are against about how is she called in this situation, or you are against with how or why is she accused of? False or ambiguously?
    [/quote]
    The actions of a king or a leader should never be, and are never, observed at face value. The fact that Pample may or may not have been plotting treason is absolutely important. However, the related facts aren't open for discussion and neither will they be determined within this thread. What we can glean from it, however, is a sense of Jester's capacity for diplomacy and his abilities to lead and to unify a nation of people.

    So, let's look into that shall we?

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']
    This experiment did not work.[/quote]
    Right out of the gates something as important as the appointment and inauguration of a king's equal is likened to a rash and hastily conducted experiment. At least he apologizes for it...

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']It was my fault for treating pamplemousse like an equal. I did not realize that pamplemousse was the kind of person that is manipulated easily.[/quote]
    Well, which is it then? The king's fault for making such a poor decision or Pample's fault for taking advantage? What began as an appropriate admission of failure quickly became a platform for cowardly ad hominem attacks.

    [quote]Since I was not controlling her, keith decided to. He turned her against me with almost no effort at all.[/quote]
    Once again, this seems like an excellent opportunity to admit wrong and prove to Necrovion that you've learned from the mistake. Why weren't you controlling your own queen? If you couldn't or weren't willing to lead such a powerful and prominent figure, why should anyone assume you could govern a kingdom?

    [quote]pample is far too weak to be a queen or any type of leadership position.

    I had high hopes for her, and she trashed them because keith moon told to her to.[/quote]
    And it concludes with more slander and ad hominem. Nothing of the future. Nothing of repairing damage done or the glory that is yet to belong to such a deserving people. Only embarrassment.
  19. Downvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Ravenstrider in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    [quote name='Atrumist' timestamp='1289337070' post='71773']
    So you are against about how is she called in this situation, or you are against with how or why is she accused of? False or ambiguously?
    [/quote]
    The actions of a king or a leader should never be, and are never, observed at face value. The fact that Pample may or may not have been plotting treason is absolutely important. However, the related facts aren't open for discussion and neither will they be determined within this thread. What we can glean from it, however, is a sense of Jester's capacity for diplomacy and his abilities to lead and to unify a nation of people.

    So, let's look into that shall we?

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']
    This experiment did not work.[/quote]
    Right out of the gates something as important as the appointment and inauguration of a king's equal is likened to a rash and hastily conducted experiment. At least he apologizes for it...

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']It was my fault for treating pamplemousse like an equal. I did not realize that pamplemousse was the kind of person that is manipulated easily.[/quote]
    Well, which is it then? The king's fault for making such a poor decision or Pample's fault for taking advantage? What began as an appropriate admission of failure quickly became a platform for cowardly ad hominem attacks.

    [quote]Since I was not controlling her, keith decided to. He turned her against me with almost no effort at all.[/quote]
    Once again, this seems like an excellent opportunity to admit wrong and prove to Necrovion that you've learned from the mistake. Why weren't you controlling your own queen? If you couldn't or weren't willing to lead such a powerful and prominent figure, why should anyone assume you could govern a kingdom?

    [quote]pample is far too weak to be a queen or any type of leadership position.

    I had high hopes for her, and she trashed them because keith moon told to her to.[/quote]
    And it concludes with more slander and ad hominem. Nothing of the future. Nothing of repairing damage done or the glory that is yet to belong to such a deserving people. Only embarrassment.
  20. Downvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from dst in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    [quote name='Atrumist' timestamp='1289337070' post='71773']
    So you are against about how is she called in this situation, or you are against with how or why is she accused of? False or ambiguously?
    [/quote]
    The actions of a king or a leader should never be, and are never, observed at face value. The fact that Pample may or may not have been plotting treason is absolutely important. However, the related facts aren't open for discussion and neither will they be determined within this thread. What we can glean from it, however, is a sense of Jester's capacity for diplomacy and his abilities to lead and to unify a nation of people.

    So, let's look into that shall we?

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']
    This experiment did not work.[/quote]
    Right out of the gates something as important as the appointment and inauguration of a king's equal is likened to a rash and hastily conducted experiment. At least he apologizes for it...

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']It was my fault for treating pamplemousse like an equal. I did not realize that pamplemousse was the kind of person that is manipulated easily.[/quote]
    Well, which is it then? The king's fault for making such a poor decision or Pample's fault for taking advantage? What began as an appropriate admission of failure quickly became a platform for cowardly ad hominem attacks.

    [quote]Since I was not controlling her, keith decided to. He turned her against me with almost no effort at all.[/quote]
    Once again, this seems like an excellent opportunity to admit wrong and prove to Necrovion that you've learned from the mistake. Why weren't you controlling your own queen? If you couldn't or weren't willing to lead such a powerful and prominent figure, why should anyone assume you could govern a kingdom?

    [quote]pample is far too weak to be a queen or any type of leadership position.

    I had high hopes for her, and she trashed them because keith moon told to her to.[/quote]
    And it concludes with more slander and ad hominem. Nothing of the future. Nothing of repairing damage done or the glory that is yet to belong to such a deserving people. Only embarrassment.
  21. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Roland in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    [quote name='Atrumist' timestamp='1289337070' post='71773']
    So you are against about how is she called in this situation, or you are against with how or why is she accused of? False or ambiguously?
    [/quote]
    The actions of a king or a leader should never be, and are never, observed at face value. The fact that Pample may or may not have been plotting treason is absolutely important. However, the related facts aren't open for discussion and neither will they be determined within this thread. What we can glean from it, however, is a sense of Jester's capacity for diplomacy and his abilities to lead and to unify a nation of people.

    So, let's look into that shall we?

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']
    This experiment did not work.[/quote]
    Right out of the gates something as important as the appointment and inauguration of a king's equal is likened to a rash and hastily conducted experiment. At least he apologizes for it...

    [quote name='Jester' timestamp='1289204916' post='71683']It was my fault for treating pamplemousse like an equal. I did not realize that pamplemousse was the kind of person that is manipulated easily.[/quote]
    Well, which is it then? The king's fault for making such a poor decision or Pample's fault for taking advantage? What began as an appropriate admission of failure quickly became a platform for cowardly ad hominem attacks.

    [quote]Since I was not controlling her, keith decided to. He turned her against me with almost no effort at all.[/quote]
    Once again, this seems like an excellent opportunity to admit wrong and prove to Necrovion that you've learned from the mistake. Why weren't you controlling your own queen? If you couldn't or weren't willing to lead such a powerful and prominent figure, why should anyone assume you could govern a kingdom?

    [quote]pample is far too weak to be a queen or any type of leadership position.

    I had high hopes for her, and she trashed them because keith moon told to her to.[/quote]
    And it concludes with more slander and ad hominem. Nothing of the future. Nothing of repairing damage done or the glory that is yet to belong to such a deserving people. Only embarrassment.
  22. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Roland in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    Keith and Pample are no strangers, Jester. Surely you know this. I don't doubt that your accusations are true, but surely she's owed more respect for her cunning than you seem willing to acknowledge. I would be unsurprised if tyranny had been the ploy all along.

    In fact, I seem to recall overhearing Pample and yourself openly discussing plans to overthrow elected royalty on the very eve of the first elections. Your alliance with her seems to show only your lack of foresight...and hindsight as the case may be.
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    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from dst in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    Keith and Pample are no strangers, Jester. Surely you know this. I don't doubt that your accusations are true, but surely she's owed more respect for her cunning than you seem willing to acknowledge. I would be unsurprised if tyranny had been the ploy all along.

    In fact, I seem to recall overhearing Pample and yourself openly discussing plans to overthrow elected royalty on the very eve of the first elections. Your alliance with her seems to show only your lack of foresight...and hindsight as the case may be.
  24. Downvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Pipstickz in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    Keith and Pample are no strangers, Jester. Surely you know this. I don't doubt that your accusations are true, but surely she's owed more respect for her cunning than you seem willing to acknowledge. I would be unsurprised if tyranny had been the ploy all along.

    In fact, I seem to recall overhearing Pample and yourself openly discussing plans to overthrow elected royalty on the very eve of the first elections. Your alliance with her seems to show only your lack of foresight...and hindsight as the case may be.
  25. Upvote
    Malaikat Maut got a reaction from Peace in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    Keith and Pample are no strangers, Jester. Surely you know this. I don't doubt that your accusations are true, but surely she's owed more respect for her cunning than you seem willing to acknowledge. I would be unsurprised if tyranny had been the ploy all along.

    In fact, I seem to recall overhearing Pample and yourself openly discussing plans to overthrow elected royalty on the very eve of the first elections. Your alliance with her seems to show only your lack of foresight...and hindsight as the case may be.
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