[Azrael Dark]

Its obvious you should vote for me as Marind Bell King. I mean, I fit perfectly in that job!


Ok, ok so maybe not but two things Pip:

1) Potato and Potato related products? (french fries?)

2) Fix your bacon. That's not bacon. That's ham.

[Liberty4life]

yeah all vote for dst :D

[Pipstickz]

So...what have Lifeline and Chewett done for Marind Bell lately? They've both been alliance leaders, and have had the chance, but have they done anything? How many Marind Bell alliance members do you see out and about, compared to other alliances? The latest positive change I see in Marind Bell is the Sparring Grounds.

Oh, and if you don't want to see Marind Bell replace a bad king, do you really have the land's best interests in mind? :P

Refering to this:

Lifeline, on 22 October 2009 - 02:11 AM, said:

i am simply concerned about the well beeing of the land and dont want to see an event like in golemus repeated. where ppl within the land try to dispose of their king because he lags identification with them. for the already weakened MB that would be devasting and a horrible fate.

This post has been edited by Pipstickz: 23 October 2009 - 12:30 AM

[Chewett]

Pipstickz, on 23 October 2009 - 01:27 AM, said:

So...what have Lifeline and Chewett done for Marind Bell lately? They've both been alliance leaders, and have had the chance, but have they done anything? How many Marind Bell alliance members do you see out and about, compared to other alliances? The latest positive change I see in Marind Bell is the Sparring Grounds.

Very Good question, What have we done. Nothing.

But there is a reason, if a bad one for that. Mur.

If you read the adventure log there were several meetings with I, Liberty and Him. In those meetings he outlined a plan for Marind Bell that he wanted to take Forward. Changing the alliance structure and also Making Himself the head of The Soe For the period of time. Now in that meeting we were told to do nothing about Soe and Marind Bell until Mur had readied the changes, and then made them.

We have followed what he asked of us, until recently when we asked him about his plan, Which he confessed he had forgotten entirely. So, We are to blame in the fact that we followed Murs plan, But i would not say that is something we could have refused

I do not blame Mur for this issue, for he is busy, But i am saddened that you Pip are asking what we have done and i have had to say this. All the plans he made with us, Cannot be fufilled. Much time spent preparing the alliances, and waiting for Mur to make the final move. All for nothing.

We will move on. We will make Marind Bell Better. And We shall NOT rely on one person to help us do this.

We Do not need the King position to continue our plans, For they are ones that the Kingship only has interrupted breifly. We are now collecting together a new "team" so we can work effectively. If Lifeline is made king or if Pip is made king, we shall follow our plan. For we believe it is a good one.

And on a final note I ask myself, What have you done for MB Pip? Or even better, What have you planned for it? Because the changes Mur had planned were something that would have Made MB one of the most intresting and strongest lands. And we did not want to sacrifice that for a couple of stupid things that Mur didnt like.

This post has been edited by Chewett: 23 October 2009 - 06:00 AM

[Pipstickz]

Chewett, on 22 October 2009 - 11:28 PM, said:

And on a final note I ask myself, What have you done for MB Pip? Or even better, What have you planned for it?

I haven't done anything, simply because I haven't had the chance. If I'd tried to join SoE, I would've been rejected, because I've been in all those alliances. If I'd tried to join KoB, well, have you fought me lately? It's getting better, but I'm still no match for most big MP5s.

Now, if you don't know what I plan for Marind Bell, you haven't read the topic very well. First post should be the first one you read, shouldn't it?

So, Chewett, your part in this election? It's just a little plan to get a few more votes. If you and Lifeline "always agree", then what's the point of having you as co-leader? And besides, if you haven't noticed, the last co-leader got kicked and demoted from his land. Sure, circumstances were a bit interesting, but, according to Mur, the king will have all the power, meaning if you disagree, the king could go ahead and punish you. If you agree with Lifeline to have equal power between the two of you, then you disagree, what then? Sure, put it to a vote for the citizens of Marind Bell. Say Chewett wins this vote, Lifeline still wants it his way, and does it anyways.

I can keep going if you want x3

[Kyphis the Bard]

dst, on 23 October 2009 - 03:24 AM, said:

Ok. Stop arguing and vote for me! Yes, that's right. Vote for dst!! Shall I start with the "what I will do/wanna do" speech? I would rather not. You all know me: what I did, do, what are my opinions and so on. So...start voting :D Oh wait...until Mur puts the voting link :D

Hell, you get MY vote ^_^

Two reasons:
>1: dst is damn sexy! I mean seriously, just look at that clown outfit she sports... rahr!
>2: I like having my account. Oh god, please don't unleash your bugs upon me! Ruuuuuuun!

~~~~~~~~

Seriously though, I have to say that so far, I don't like any of the candidates except Chewett (and dst, of course >.> please don't smite me!).
After the recent fiasco with Necrovion (read Observers post, then my next one, before you comment on Lifeline not being in the SoE), I question Lifelines ability to look out for the best interests of the land.
And Pip, as has already been expressed your connection with the land is questionable, so I question your ability to even KNOW what is best for the land.

As it stands, this may be the first vote I abstain from. You want my vote? You better have a very good argument in your application you sent to Mur. Because so far, I haven't seen much evidence of your worth. EITHER OF YOU.

Note: Not an attack on your policies, I think you both have good ones. I just don't see why those policies require you to be in that capacity to perform them. (A fact that Chewett has himself seemingly asserted, by saying that his and Lifelines plans, instigated initially by Mur, will go ahead regardless) Make MB more inviting and popular? Hell, I could do that!
Differentiate yourself from the Flock! Go earn those votes!

This post has been edited by Kyphis the Bard: 23 October 2009 - 11:32 AM

[Observer]

Kyphis the Bard, on 23 October 2009 - 11:47 AM, said:

After the recent fiasco with Necrovion, I question Lifelines ability to look out for the best interests of the land.

I think you should get your facts straight, Lifeline was not involved in that as it was the KoB that fought necro (and the KoB only) he was in SoE at the time.

[Lifeline]

lemme get this straight Pip u never even tried to apply for SoE even tho u were interested because u THOUGHT u would get rejected? now u want to become king but had fear of rejection to only ask if u could join an alliance? is this how a king would act? does this show that u are even a little close to any of the 2 MB alliances? and u being in a lot of alliance has nothing to do with it. we never had problems with ppl who were in several alliances before the only problem was when those ppl decided to quickly jump into another alliance and then come back to SoE. only then they were rejected and not because they were in like 2 alliances before.

and Kyphis what do u mean with fiasco in necro. both me and chew totally stayed out of the whole thing. none of us supporter Lib and yrth in the war against necro. i even stated before the final battle in a public topic on forums that i wont participate no matter what because it was totally against my values. let me please remind u. i stayed out and as a consequence of the war with which i had nothing to do KoB was lost. a few days ago i managed to get KoB back and it fully belongs to MB again. or wasnt that in the best interest for the land? should i have better left KoB in the hands of necro and surrendered it?

and Pip who is this last co-leader u speak of who got kicked and demoted? i have no clue whom u are talking about ... if u mean Lib he wasnt co-leader he was a full leader. and he was never forced to leave the land. he lost his alliance to the sentinels in the war and deceived to leave.
...wait maybe u mean Fenrir. then i am just really disappointed about ur lag of information... Fenrir helped us recruiting for SoE. he was the recruiter and no co-leader. then there happened an incident and HE LEFT SoE. he was never kicked.

all i can see here is tons of misinformation. i am really happy that at least some of it could be cleared here. and i encourage everybody to ask if anything is unclear. so please if u have any questions, concerns, comments, whatever post them right here.

[Kyphis the Bard]

Observer, on 23 October 2009 - 09:05 PM, said:

I think you should get your facts straight, Lifeline was not involved in that as it was the KoB that fought necro (and the KoB only) he was in SoE at the time.

I am in fact fully aware of that.

But thanks for pointing it out. If I hadn't already been fully aware of it, it would have interfered with my argument.

As it is, it doesn't.

(edited for clarity)

This post has been edited by Kyphis the Bard: 23 October 2009 - 11:31 AM

[Observer]

Kyphis the Bard, on 23 October 2009 - 12:30 PM, said:

I am in fact fully aware of that.

But thanks for pointing it out. If I hadn't already been fully aware of it, it would have interfered with my argument.

As it is, it doesn't.

(edited for clarity)

Then why does it have a freaking thing to do with lifeline's abilities to lead MB?

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I just don't see why those policies require you to be in that capacity to perform them. (A fact that Chewett has himself seemingly asserted, by saying that his and Lifelines plans, instigated initially by Mur, will go ahead regardless) Make MB more inviting and popular? Hell, I could do that!

I presume your referring to this:

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We will move on. We will make Marind Bell Better. And We shall NOT rely on one person to help us do this.

And it does say "us" and "we" why does that make YOU think you can do the same? If your not referring to this, please clarify.

[Kyphis the Bard]

Observer, on 23 October 2009 - 10:06 PM, said:

Then why does it have a freaking thing to do with lifeline's abilities to lead MB?

I assure you it does, but as they are personal reasons I see no reason to explain them. I intentionally DIDN'T state them, a fact I was attempting to make plain to anyone who was reading it.

Observer, on 23 October 2009 - 10:06 PM, said:

I presume your referring to this:

And it does say "us" and "we" why does that make YOU think you can do the same? If your not referring to this, please clarify.

Look at EXACTLY what I say. I refer only to my ability to make MB more inviting and open, not the other things. However, I DO reference those other things when I say that OTHERS could do that just as easily.

Silly Observer, topics not for you ^_^
(You gonna call yourself observer, try paying closer attention)

This post has been edited by Kyphis the Bard: 23 October 2009 - 12:55 PM

[Chad]

This is getting off topic...

I say, let the day come for the judgment. I see good things in Pip even though he's a freakin' potato fries! XD
Even a single potato can make a difference... :P

And Kyphis, sorry for Observer, he's a really, really special child who loves to destroy rituals at GGG. He just needs to seek a professional help. :o :blink: :huh:

[Kyphis the Bard]

Lifeline, on 23 October 2009 - 09:17 PM, said:

and Kyphis what do u mean with fiasco in necro.

For clarification, I'm not talking about the War, and as I said when replying to Observer, they are personal reasons so I won't go into them (and no, I haven't explained them to ANYONE). If you will note, I state that because of these reasons I am considering not voting for either of you. I do not say they are reasons to vote against you, just that they are reasons for me not to vote for you.

Lifeline, on 23 October 2009 - 09:17 PM, said:

and Pip who is this last co-leader u speak of who got kicked and demoted? i have no clue whom u are talking about ... if u mean Lib he wasnt co-leader he was a full leader. and he was never forced to leave the land. he lost his alliance to the sentinels in the war and deceived to leave.
...wait maybe u mean Fenrir. then i am just really disappointed about ur lag of information... Fenrir helped us recruiting for SoE. he was the recruiter and no co-leader. then there happened an incident and HE LEFT SoE. he was never kicked.

I believe this refers to Grido >.>

[Observer]

Kyphis the Bard, on 23 October 2009 - 01:45 PM, said:

I assure you it does, but as they are personal reasons I see no reason to explain them. I intentionally DIDN'T state them, a fact I was attempting to make plain to anyone who was reading it.

There's not much point in posting unargumented statements is there? Actually in doing so, your the one polluting (you might call it spamming) this topic.

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Look at EXACTLY what I say. I refer only to my ability to make MB more inviting and open, not the other things. However, I DO reference those other things when I say that OTHERS could do that just as easily.

I highly question your ability to do so due to your previous posts in this topic, you don't strike me as "inviting". And what makes you assume others can get the alliances behind them? What makes you assume they know the plans as to how to "rebuild" MB even?

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Silly Observer, topics not for you ^_^

Topic is not for me? I consider myself a citizen of MB if I am not allowed to argument my opinion (or to point out why your statements are flawed). Who are you to post in this topic?

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(You gonna call yourself observer, try paying closer attention)

I'm paying very close attention...

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And Kyphis, sorry for Observer, he's a really, really special child who loves to destroy rituals at GGG. He just needs to seek a professional help. :o :blink: :huh:

Destroying rits at GGG? Only rits that have ever been killed there were because I said "not set" and people decided they wanted to attack before I did set anyway.

This post has been edited by Observer: 23 October 2009 - 01:15 PM

[Chad]

Observer, on 23 October 2009 - 01:13 PM, said:

There's not much point in posting unargumented statements is there? Actually in doing so, your the one polluting (you might call it spamming) this topic.


I highly question your ability to do so due to your previous posts in this topic, you don't strike me as "inviting". And what makes you assume others can get the alliances behind them? What makes you assume they know the plans as to how to "rebuild" MB even?

Topic is not for me? I consider myself a citizen of MB if I am not allowed to argument my opinion (or to point out why your statements are flawed). Who are you to post in this topic?

I'm paying very close attention...

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Destroying rits at GGG? Only rits that have ever been killed there were because I said "not set" and people decided they wanted to attack before I did set anyway.

I have some evidence, you did it just earlier, hit and run type? Wanna see it? :D

[Observer]

No... Your (maybe I have myself as well) getting offtopic by far. If you really insist on showing me your Photoshop skills sent me a PM.

EDIT: @Kyphis, maybe if you really wanted that to happen you could try not to insult me (or anyone else) next time?

This post has been edited by Observer: 23 October 2009 - 01:53 PM

[Kyphis the Bard]

Observer, on 23 October 2009 - 11:13 PM, said:

@Kyphis, maybe if you really wanted that to happen you could try not to insult me (or anyone else) next time?

Try not to earn it then ;)

Observer, on 23 October 2009 - 11:13 PM, said:

There's not much point in posting unargumented statements is there? Actually in doing so, your the one polluting (you might call it spamming) this topic.

Since I was replying to the candidates, not you, in that initial post, and the focus was that they hadn't as yet given any real incentive to vote for them above most other candidates, so no, perfectly valid post (unlike this one, which is completly off topic and I would appreciate if you would let it die rather than dreadging it up again and again, as I don't feel like reply again if you're going to keep making the same mistakes)

Observer, on 23 October 2009 - 11:13 PM, said:

I highly question your ability to do so due to your previous posts in this topic, you don't strike me as "inviting". And what makes you assume others can get the alliances behind them? What makes you assume they know the plans as to how to "rebuild" MB even?

You just ignored the part were THAT'S NOT THE FOCUS OF THAT STATEMENT
Once again, going off topic so let it died.

Observer, on 23 October 2009 - 11:13 PM, said:

Topic is not for me? I consider myself a citizen of MB if I am not allowed to argument my opinion (or to point out why your statements are flawed). Who are you to post in this topic?

I'm paying very close attention...

Trix's cereal ad, look it up.
Completly off topic, let it died.

Whats that, all three things off topic?

And my initial post is still completely relevant.

This post has been edited by Kyphis the Bard: 23 October 2009 - 02:12 PM

[Liberty4life]

eh yes... to refer back to chews post, yeah that was deal for soe at that meeting and that meeting decided that soe will become just like chew said it while other part of ex soe would get second ally, military based, KOB, that happened but only partially... still mur promised new logo for it as current one was just temporal, in fact mur asked if i want to wait for new logo or to get ally with temporal and i said give me ally with temporal logo, well and i actually pushed him a bit on dsts advice :D but nvm... well mine point in here is that we could do somethin more about mb (without touchin soe) at that point, but since we were focused on supposed soe event we havent done anythin

and well... i also question lifelines view on loyalties to land, becoz he is too much neutral in most cases or he picks side he thinks is in best interest of realm, so its possible situation that he goes against mb, now question is would he put his personal principals on which he build his role in front of mb, or will he stick to interests of mb

[dst]

I mean it. I am thinking of running for MB. I am not joking.

[cryxus]

dst for Queen... *coughs* did i ever tell you that you have a lovely Adam's Apple? ^_^

This post has been edited by cryxus: 23 October 2009 - 03:40 PM