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Blooddrop2 seems to give a static amount of initiative (10 percent) regardless of influence used during a fight, even at 100%.

 

Applying Ledah's Creature Tokens at 0% Aobozu (860220)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1] Baku (860221)'s creature tokens [claw1] Chochinbi (860222)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1, blooddrop2] [blooddrop2] Chochinbi (860222) gets 7 initiative (10 percent) Gaki (860223)'s creature tokens [blooddrop1] Ichiren-Bozu (860224)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1] Kambarinyodo (860225)'s creature tokens [stardust] Applying MRWasabi's Creature Tokens at 100% Elemental I (750219)'s creature tokens []

 

Also, the text for the token makes no mention of giving any initiative bonus of any kind.

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[blooddrop2] Blood Drop II
Gives a bonus if owner has a certain combination of principles. Transposition, Light and Time gives permanent immunity from freeze, Syntropy, Balance and Entropy gives 25% bonus attack and defence.

 

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All of them scale the bonuses according to % influence used, even Blooddrop2, but Blooddrop2 gives stats at 100% influence that the token doesn't say it gives and logically shouldn't.

The same rit at different % influence gives:

0% influence used

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Aobozu (860220)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1]
[claw1] Aobozu (860220) gets 1000 power based on Principles
Baku (860221)'s creature tokens [claw1]
[claw1] Baku (860221) gets 1000 power based on Principles
Chochinbi (860222)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1, blooddrop2]
[claw1] Chochinbi (860222) gets 1000 power based on Principles
[blooddrop2] Chochinbi (860222) gets 0 initiative (10 percent)
Gaki (860223)'s creature tokens [blooddrop1]
[blooddrop1] Gaki (860223) gets 1 initiative (20 percent) due to principles combination
Ichiren-Bozu (860224)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1]
[claw1] Ichiren-Bozu (860224) gets 1000 power based on Principles
Kambarinyodo (860225)'s creature tokens [stardust]

50% influence used

Spoiler
Aobozu (860220)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1]
[claw1] Aobozu (860220) gets 500 power based on Principles
Baku (860221)'s creature tokens [claw1]
[claw1] Baku (860221) gets 500 power based on Principles
Chochinbi (860222)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1, blooddrop2]
[claw1] Chochinbi (860222) gets 500 power based on Principles
[blooddrop2] Chochinbi (860222) gets 5 initiative (10 percent)
Gaki (860223)'s creature tokens [blooddrop1]
[blooddrop1] Gaki (860223) gets 10 initiative (20 percent) due to principles combination
Ichiren-Bozu (860224)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1]
[claw1] Ichiren-Bozu (860224) gets 500 power based on Principles
Kambarinyodo (860225)'s creature tokens [stardust]

100% influence used

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Applying Ledah's Creature Tokens at 0%
Aobozu (860220)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1]
Baku (860221)'s creature tokens [claw1]
Chochinbi (860222)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1, blooddrop2]
[blooddrop2] Chochinbi (860222) gets 10 initiative (10 percent)
Gaki (860223)'s creature tokens [blooddrop1]
Ichiren-Bozu (860224)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1]
Kambarinyodo (860225)'s creature tokens [stardust]

Claw 1 scaled correctly, giving 1000 power at 0% influence, 500 power at 50% influence and 0 power at 100% influence. It seems Blooddrop1 scales inversely, giving no stats at 0% influence and max stats at 100% influence. It is the only token to do this to my knowledge.

Edited by Ledah
Corrected to blooddrop2 in first sentence.

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1 hour ago, Ledah said:

Claw 1 scaled correctly, giving 1000 power at 0% influence, 500 power at 50% influence and 0 power at 100% influence. It seems Blooddrop1 scales inversely, giving no stats at 0% influence and max stats at 100% influence. It is the only token to do this to my knowledge.

 

As far as I can tell, both blooddrop 1, 2, 3 are providing a percentage of your stats, ignornig your vit percentage

onyxfangs Does this as well, as well as black diamonds, purpurmoon and a number others.

Perhaps its just your understanding of how the tokens work is incorrect?

However, the description doesnt mention the init which is true. Im inclined to change the description. Comments?

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 The title says blood drop 2, you paste blood drop two description and it is the correct one, claim blood drop 2 is giving you initiative, then begin to look at how blood drop 1 is affecting your stats:

[blooddrop1] Blood Drop I
Gives a bonus if owner has a certain combination of principles. Entropy and Darkness gives 10% attack, Imagination and Light gives 20% initiative, Cyclicity and Time gives 10% defence.

Ledah has imagination and light, the blood drop two from the logs posted I believe is showing up as an error of some kind, that it is in fact blood drop one labeled as a blood drop two in the logs.See:
 

 

Chochinbi (860222)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1, blooddrop2] [blooddrop2] Chochinbi (860222) gets 7 initiative (10 percent) 

double blood drop 2

Chochinbi (860222)'s creature tokens [stardust, claw1, blooddrop2]
[claw1] Chochinbi (860222) gets 500 power based on Principles
[blooddrop2] Chochinbi (860222) gets 5 initiative (10 percent)


..... one blood drop two?

second inspection shows I'm surely wrong here, copypasting makes it seem there's two bloodrop tokens stacked, if we could see your creature's page Ledah it might help. Irregardless, seems that  the token in question here, blood drop two, is acting as blood drop one


A bit more of me being wrong I guess:

[blooddrop2] Chochinbi (860222) gets 0 initiative (10 percent)
Gaki (860223)'s creature tokens [blooddrop1]
[blooddrop1] Gaki (860223) gets 1 initiative (20 percent) due to principles combination

If my assumption is accurate then it brings to question why these tokens that would then be similar are behaving differently, I will try to look into this myself.

Edited by Mallos
reviewing info

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On 6/3/2018 at 11:32 AM, Ledah said:

Blooddrop2 seems to give a static amount of initiative (10 percent) regardless of influence used during a fight, even at 100%. 

I can confirm this:

Applying Mallos's Creature Tokens at 0%
[blooddrop2] Innocence (793959) gets 0 initiative (10 percent)

Applying Mallos's Creature Tokens at 50%
[blooddrop2] Innocence (793959) gets 0 initiative (10 percent)

Applying Mallos's Creature Tokens at 100%
[blooddrop2] Innocence (793959) gets 0 initiative (10 percent)

Both of us are missing the prerequisite principle combinations for blooddrop2 and I can guess this is what is causing the token to apply stats that it doesn't list. Can someone else with the correct principles test their blooddrop2 token and see if it works as intended then?

 

Applying Mallos's Creature Tokens at 0%


Innocence (793959)'s creature tokens [stardust, darkshield, blackdiamonds, blooddrop2, goldbelt, blooddrop1]
[blooddrop2] Innocence (793959) gets 0 initiative (10 percent)
[goldbelt] Innocence (793959) gets 300 defence based on won battles
Zyrxae (803785)'s creature tokens [darkshield, claw3, claw1, blooddrop1]
Peace (804023)'s creature tokens [stardust, darkshield, darksky, blackdiamonds, goldbelt, claw1, blooddrop2, blooddrop3]
[darksky] Peace (804023) gets 0 attack and loses 0 defence due to missing Darkness Principle
[goldbelt] Peace (804023) gets 300 defence based on won battles
[blooddrop2] Peace (804023) gets 0 initiative (10 percent)
[blooddrop3] Peace (804023) gets 26 attack (20 percent) and 1 initiative (20 percent)

 


Applying Mallos's Creature Tokens at 50%
Innocence (793959)'s creature tokens [stardust, darkshield, blackdiamonds, blooddrop2, goldbelt, blooddrop1]
[blooddrop2] Innocence (793959) gets 0 initiative (10 percent)
[goldbelt] Innocence (793959) gets 300 defence based on won battles
Zyrxae (803785)'s creature tokens [darkshield, claw3, claw1, blooddrop1]
[claw3] Zyrxae (803785) gets 40 attack, power and initiative based on Principles
[claw1] Zyrxae (803785) gets 353 power based on Principles
Peace (804023)'s creature tokens [stardust, darkshield, darksky, blackdiamonds, goldbelt, claw1, blooddrop2, blooddrop3]
[darkshield] Peace (804023) gets 1962 defence
[darksky] Peace (804023) gets 809.035 attack and defence due to Darkness Principle
[goldbelt] Peace (804023) gets 300 defence based on won battles
[claw1] Peace (804023) gets 353 power based on Principles
[blooddrop2] Peace (804023) gets 0 initiative (10 percent)
[blooddrop3] Peace (804023) gets 188 attack (20 percent) and 1 initiative (20 percent)

 


Applying Mallos's Creature Tokens at 100%
Innocence (793959)'s creature tokens [stardust, darkshield, blackdiamonds, blooddrop2, goldbelt, blooddrop1]
[blooddrop2] Innocence (793959) gets 0 initiative (10 percent)
[goldbelt] Innocence (793959) gets 300 defence based on won battles
Zyrxae (803785)'s creature tokens [darkshield, claw3, claw1, blooddrop1]
[darkshield] Zyrxae (803785) gets 1966 defence
[claw3] Zyrxae (803785) gets 81 attack, power and initiative based on Principles
[claw1] Zyrxae (803785) gets 705 power based on Principles
Peace (804023)'s creature tokens [stardust, darkshield, darksky, blackdiamonds, goldbelt, claw1, blooddrop2, blooddrop3]
[darkshield] Peace (804023) gets 1962 defence
[darksky] Peace (804023) gets 1061.807 attack and defence due to Darkness Principle
[goldbelt] Peace (804023) gets 300 defence based on won battles
[claw1] Peace (804023) gets 705 power based on Principles
[blooddrop2] Peace (804023) gets 0 initiative (10 percent)
[blooddrop3] Peace (804023) gets 238 attack (20 percent) and 1 initiative (20 percent)

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