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  1. Now we're just annoying other people with 2 of our offtopic comments, lol. Moderators, feel free to remove pip's. Not mine though To at least keep a semblance of on-topic-ishness. Anyone got any idea if Jester will even deign to respond to all of this?
  2. I knew that when I was about to go to bed, that I should've continued the line of thought that started with 'but I haven't heard from Jester about this yet', but hey, this is the internet, so go ahead pip . Besides that, you are doing the exact same thing on your last part; assuming that the link between the Tribunal and Necrovion, simply because Mur said so, somehow validates him leaving as a citizen and becoming one of another land. Seeing as how this is the internet, I will ignore your 'something to ponder' and 'even if my memory is wrong'. I will ignore it, because that is how internet arguments go. Seriously, Granos said it before, why would I have to repeat it again pip? Does every post have to end with, 'Let's hear from Jester first', just so that we can all be certain that no one overlooked this fundamentally important thing? C'mon, I don't want to go offtopic and I usually only want to write /new/ things on a topic. Well, I say usually, but annoying you is funny too. So let me please use this opportunity to end with the words; 'But let's hear from Jester first.' *Cough*
  3. I don't see the problem here on the side of Firs' side, simply because joining an alliance is possible, without formally joining the alliance. Indyra for instance, holds a noteworthy position inside the GG alliance, even though she is the head of the guild. In this sense, being the head of a guild, and not being in the GG alliance and then delegating tasks to the other guild members, shows her priorities, but also her preferences, both of which are highly compatible. She is guild leader first, then a warrior part of the GG alliance. Only when a conflict of interest would arise, would she choose for the guild, but since this will most likely not happen in the short and mid term future, it delivers us no headaches. Now, there is always the possibility that Jester or the alliance never contemplated that people could still be part of an alliance, while formally not being so. But since the bonus from the alliance in stats, alliance chat and alliance leader jump and alliance invite, are things that are not at all that very important, it should be a simple possibility. The more important things, such as access to alliance forum and thus inclusion to, oh I don't know, everything the alliance is about, are not dependent upon actually being part of the alliance in the first place. Another example, I help protect bob and have access to the forum section for bob, but I don't want to join Bob's alliance, simply because I wish to show that my priority and preference lies with GG first and then with bob. However, it is a wonderful combination and I see no conflict of interest arising. What Jester is doing however, by becoming a citizen of another country first, he is showing the 'wrong' kind of priority or preference, as to what 'should be expected' of a monarch. As Firs stated earlier, in this scenario it becomes quite likely that conflicts of interest can show up quite quickly; is Jester a vassal, since he must obey the laws of another land, making all other Necrovions vassals as well? Then again, I haven't heard from Jester yet, so maybe he didn't realize that you can be part of an alliance, while formally not actually joining them.
  4. Don't worry Chewett, I am still planning on replying to you, but I haven't had a lot of time yet (exams ) Anyway, I kindly ask everyone who got into the deathmatch trivia, to place their desired rewards here, so that I may organize and deliver it to you better, once the Treasure Keepers send me the codes, etc. Remember, higher rank, first pick.
  5. Just a quick update,I don't really have time to properly respond to chewett now, but I'll try and get Udgard and Granos together at around 20:00 server time.
  6. Of course the way I judge them is flawed, as it is an entirely subjective judgment, which is why I ask people to argue with me. However, simply saying that it is flawed doesn't really help a lot, now when you say that she does help newbies a lot, then I would normally argue against that, as I have seen him be quite offstandish and isolationist and I concluded that such behaviour impedes realm-influencing acts. But it does seem that (not just you), others say that she has been helping people out. And, yes, it may seem that I put up a higher emphasis on helping out newbs, however, it is not actually the case. I argue that simply because we were having a discussion about it, that it seemed to you that it were the case, if I truly did put a higher emphasis on it, then surely, I would've put that in with the 2 previous, more general arguments. Besides that, I believe that helping out newbs is integral to the 'influencing the realm' part and that while the latter may not include the earlier, the opposite is certainly true. Lastly, the cases we were talking about, were right on the 'I'm doubting so much, it may as well be a coinflip' middle, as such, helping newbies becomes marginally more important.
  7. Mmmh, you are right in those cases, so I'll try my best to explain a bit. For one, achieving Monarchy is not enough, I realize that, however, the difference is that Handy Pockets was elected. An election requires far more effort, than simply being born into a dynasty. Feel free to dispute this. As for Indyra, Windy and Sagewoman, I have seen that, besides what they have done, is that they helped newbies. While one may argue that W&S didn't do much, they were also influential in the way Loreroot's government behaved, as well as being old in comparison to the others up there. Now, I don't count age as a real argument, however, their age, unlike Vilinec, has been put, consistently to good use, through the help of newbies (throughout all of their days, which is a lot.) Now, Indyra is almost constantly in the paper cabin, so I have added that to her alliance achievements. Besides that, I also took into account that her guild is the first of its kind, which, while not necessarily as special as the 'first alliance', it still counts for something. Lastly, if Indyra had not been selected as the leader of the guild, she would have been chosen for a higher postion in the GG alliance, which would force us to change the name of the 'triumvirate'.. what's it called when it's 4? Regardless, unlike some other governments or guilds, she is clearly visible and does influence the realm. As I said in my previous post, I was in pure doubt about Innocence, Mya and Fyrd. The way you put it, I have begun re-doubting the already shaky positions of Mya and Fyrd. I believe I had underestimated Mya's position, because her position in the government of Loreroot, as well as when helping newbies, should put her in the same position as Indyra. I do believe I have a bit of bias towards Loreroot, though I have no real reason as to why. So, yay, I think I'll put Mya on the legends list. (I did say it was a coinflip before.) The same goes for Fyrd, he also has been helping newbies, I just haven't seen it a lot of times, giving me a bias to correct for. So yay too? As for Innocence, (I'm not certain if you read what I wrote correctly, because the way you end makes it sound as if I had put Innocence in the legendary category), I must argue against your reasoning, because while she (he?) may have done valuable things, her (his?) isolation impedes him severely in the sense that all his other achievements are lessened as a result as well. In this sense, the only bias I do have is against his isolation, but I believe that this bias is justified and as such he is still in the toss-up=not legendary (yet) category. In contrast, all others do freely and willingly mingle and influence the realm on a nigh daily basis, as far as I know, Innocence has consistently done the opposite to his detriment. Again, isolation can be a good thing, you just have to do it properly, and so far I have not seen a really good example of how isolation can lead to a legend. (with perhaps the exception of Z, but one can argue that the PoL is a busy crossroad and as such, isn't really isolation.)
  8. Argue here and yes, there are discrepancies, but that's only because of the 2 'general' arguments and because no one is really making a big case for or against people here. But go ahead, convince me
  9. It is a status that is assigned by me, meaning that whether you want to be on it or not, is not up to you. The only thing you can do is to make a case against yourself. Also, as I told you before, you don't need to worry about it for now, because you're in the 'highly doubtful' category.
  10. Yeah, I changed the time (and forgot that the legends part is actually on the day before) and the trivia deathmatch will start at [b]19:00 server time[/b], which should be good enough for everyone in most timezones. Glor, Morrel, Innocence, Fyrd, Blackthorn, Indyra, Handy Pockets, Ivorak, Laphers, BFH, Rumi, Curiose, Malaikat Mut, Princ Rhaegar, Eon, Fenrir Greycloth, Mcvitie, Mya Celestia, Windy, Sagewoman, Tengri, are the ones being judged. The next were rejected: Laphers, Rumi, Malaikat Mut, Fenrir Greycloth, Mcvitie. The following I am highly doubting and require more arguments to be listed as Legendary: Morrel, Blackthorn, Ivorak, BFH, Princ Rhaegar, Eon, Curiose, Tengri The following I have the highest difficulty of judging and at the moment of me writing it, it may as well be a coinflip (and because a coinflip is arbitrary, my auto-judgment is no), so please strengthen or weaken the cases for: Innocence, Fyrd, Mya Celestia. The following have (tentatively) been accepted, unless serious cases are made against them: Indyra, Handy Pockets, Windy, Sagewoman. (h-uh, all women). If you require reasoning, ask and I shall post them here. In the meanwhile, let me give you some arguments that are applicable to most of the people as to why they haven't been accepted yet. 1: Limitation of influence; While it is true that some, if not many of the names listed above, are good friends, wonderful teachers or influential players, it is the point of some versus many that sparks contention. This spark is ignited due to the fact that some, if not many, players in MD, simply never met with, interacted with, or were influenced by some of the players. And it is not the burden of the newbie to get to know them, it is the burden of the potential legendary player, to influence them in a meaningful way, if they truly wish to be legendary. In a more social context, this argument against them can simply be said by saying that it is [b]//easy//[/b] to remain within a single social group, to stay in locations that are familiar and in such a way, do not require great effort or exertion in their part to be seen as 'great' or 'legendary' by people who most likely, would have been loyal to them regardless, as they are friends. No, such isolation is not to be condoned, as my reasoning ultimately is that a legendary player of Magicduel, is not just legendary in Loreroot, Necrovion, MDA, or any other land within the realm. No, a legendary player of Magicduel [b]//has to be legendary within all of the realm//[/b], not withstanding newlings, adversaries or the lone rebel. Speaking in analogy: You can be the almighty ruler of a molehill, but the 23rd in command of the empire of a chain of mountains is still more important. (I could make jokes, but that's just mean ) Don't mistake me, isolation can make for a wonderful argument for a legendary status. But, as you may have noticed, there is an inherent weakness in isolation, namely; there is a greater chance that no one will be there to see or understand the 'greatness of your isolation'. 2: Unfulfilled potential; There are players in the list who have been nominated for things they either recently started or things that were magnificent in themselves, but very short lived, or things that were great as well, but simply failed. The thing they all have in common is simple; unfulfilled potential. Simply thinking or hoping that a player's new project will be meaningful, wonderful and influential, is [b]not enough[/b]. It must have been done long enough to actually warrant such praises. Players that have done acts that were indeed legendary, such as the postman, Tengri, the sentinel, but ultimately so shortlived, that even in the [b]mid-term[/b], their influence is easily forgotten, by all but the players who were directly involved, were scrapped off the list. As for players that tried something, but failed, I cannot do anything but resolutely deny them. [b]Failure[/b] is not and shall not ever be a pre-condition or argument for being 'Legendary', unless your goal was to fail all around and 'fail your way up'. Speaking in analogy: A single act of courage and skill may make you a hero or worthy adversary, but it is not the battle you must win, it is the war. Also, Udgard, in case Mur doesn't sponsor a trophy, how much would such an item cost?
  11. Thanks Mur , I really appreciate this sponsorship. Though, I was wondering if it was possible to create 1 item, a trophy, like last year. Trivia Trophy, for winning the Festival of War and Remembrance trivia, year 6. It's not necessary, but it would be awesome . (I can pay for it in silver, if you want it). As for the trivia contest, same rules and organization as last year. It starts on Monday the 4th, 19:00 server time, Gazebo of Equilibrium. At that point the trivia preliminary rounds start, everyone can join. 1 point per correct answer, once you have 4 points, your answers will be ignored. I'll keep asking questions until we have 16 players who have 4 points each. Then comes the deathmatch trivia, with the 16 players facing up against each other in, with the loser being eliminated until the final four. To win in the deathmatch trivia, a best of 5 trivia questions (3 correct answers) will be played. [b]Rewards:[/b] Most creatures have 0 xp, none have enough xp for maximum level, unless stated otherwise. Some creatures have tokens. All creatures have enough age (not certain about the tainted). As part of the rewards there is a creature pool where winners can pick their reward from and it consists out of: 3 Tormented souls, 6 imperial aramor, 1 bloodpact archer, 1 joker, 1 pimped grasan, or aged angien (I have enough of them). Places: 16 - 9 (last 8); 1 aged angien as a consolation prize. Places: 8 - 5 (4 quarter-finalists); 1 wpcode, 1 pick from creature pool. Place: 4 (lost semi-finals, then lost against nr. 3); 1 wpcode, 3 picks from creature pool, aged angien, or if nr. 2 or nr. 3 don’t want the tainted, then tainted. Place: 3 (lost semi-finals, then won against nr.4); 1 wpcode and choice between WP or tainted 2 (lost final); 1 wpcode, aged angien, 2 picks from the creature pool and choice between WP or tainted 1 (won final); 1 wpcode, aged angien, 3 picks from the creature pool and choice between WP or tainted and trophy (if Mur gives one) So far, all the prizes are sponsored by me, with the exception of the wpcodes and tainted (and trophy if Mur gives one). If people want to sponsor, then you are welcome to do so.
  12. For those who were wondering, I think I will start at 22:00 server time tomorrow, or 21:00 and then just retell it at 22:00 if I feel like it. I decided to just remove the battle stuff, because, eh, I = lazy. It will have trivia though (on day 6). Also, location is GoE, like last year.
  13. Currently being processed to be put on the list (I haven't had a lot of time lately (read, partying to celebrate that the year is almost over), but it will be done before the 29th, and up until the 4th you can still try to bring forth more legends): Glor, Morrel, Innocence, Fyrd, Blackthorn, Handy Pockets, Ivorak, Laphers, BFH, Rumi, Curiose, Malaikat Mut, Princ Rhaegar, Eon. As for Granos, I am sorry, but your name is simply too established for me to even think of removing it. However, since your main gripe seems to be the possible embellishment of your deeds, I will change the description. I will probably also change a lot of the 'still plays', into 'occasionally or stopped playing'. also, thank you Chewwy. I find it kind of odd that no one seems to want to post suggestions about the trivia or another type of combat quest.
  14. Ugh, I was in the train making a comment, but the free wifi broke, so now I have to rewrite all of this again. I was going to post this after dst's last post on the first page of this topic, and it goes like this: Tut-tut, naughty dst. Please refrain from debating about who is to be considered a legend, and who isn't, when I'm compiling the list. If you have to make comments, make comments that are not of the nature of 'I agree' or 'I disagree', or any other comments that are inflammatory. Please make comments such as 'I agree, because not only what he said, but also because of this and that, which haven't been mentioned before'. The attributes I look for in a legend include, but are not limited to: Length of activity (there is no real minimum, but it helps). Type of role and dominance thereof (fighter, roleplayer, helper? Were they the undisputed, or were other peers great or greater?) Impact on MD, seen as a sum of their activity (were they beneficial, nefarious? Did they influence a lot, or not?) Impact on MD, in singular achievements that are noteworthy (Established an alliance, became the first to do this or that). ... I had a 5th criteria, but I had some alcohol... *edit* I remember more coming back to me now and I read the comments that came after. Bad Udgard, I said people who weren't on the list, so Saki, RJ, me.. ¬_¬, obviously are not applicable. If people want, they can make a case against people already on the list, but they need to make a better case than usual, as I have a bias towards the established list. Checking the names, please make a case for: Glor, Morrel, Innocence (if you haven't already), Blackthorn, Fyrd *edit**edit* Here is the link for the list: http://md-archives.com/articles/festival-of-war-and-remembrance.html?page=6 *edit**edit**edit* As Dst already showed, I have no problem with people making a case against people not yet on the list. Just try to keep it less inflammatory, which is like, suupah hard for dst, I know .
  15. Yup, it's correct now, and don't fret Lightsage, at least you got a trophy from last year .
  16. Alright, since I haven't heard any oppose this, I'll postpone the festival, so that it starts on the 29th of June and ends on the 4th of July. (Or the 30th and 5th respectively for the ones who live in different time zones). Could a mod change the title? Also, I haven't seen any posts regarding new legends. If you were wondering who is already regarded as a 'legend', go visit md-archives.com.
  17. Mmmmmh.. some people did say that last year they were too busy due to exams... Should I postpone it for a week?
  18. Festival of War and Remembrance 24th-29th of June

  19. Last year Indyra suggested the idea of a festival of war. I saw its brilliance and organized the first edition of the festival with helpers. It had trivia, war games, war stories as well as a day devoted to the legends of the game. It had a great turnout, lots of attention, it was a great learning experience (coughclichecough), the prizes were really good and it had gathered a lot of positive attention. I feel like organizing another one at roughly the same date (which roughly equals when I no longer have exams, just like last year ) I'm going to change the wargame, or maybe just remove it completely (it was the only thing I didn't like about the festival from last year), suggestions are welcome. I will expand the trivia and make it better (because all the info is on the md archives site anyway). And I will accept new entries into the 'legend' section. My acceptance of a player being 'legendary' is completely my own opinion and arbitrary, but if you feel like it, try and convince me (and I have been watching you...). The rest will mostly be the same (time, location, etc (I didn't write them down here, because I was too lazy to find last year's topic)), unless you have other, good, suggestions. Best I can remember, is that it was late server time, meaning that for some it starts on the 25th and ends on the 30th. I will also accept donations from other people so that they can be used as a reward in the festival. I will also accept donations for being an awesome guy.
  20. Just saw Unthinkable, extended version. I recommend. (There is blood in it though) (And you may not like what you are thinking after the movie ends)

    1. Junior


      Why is it something unthinkable?

    2. Metal Bunny

      Metal Bunny

      It's not something unthinkable, just morally compromising. It'd be unthinkable for people with no imagination.

  21. Would it be considered adding fuel to the fire, if I, in a very 'ironic' or 'negatively criticising' manner of speaking, were to say that this kind of topic has been brought up a couple of times before? Or would that be some kind of meta-meta comment? (with this line clearly transcending the theoretical boundary of 2 meta's and into the triple metasphere? To boldly go where none has gone before?)
  22. Osama Bin Laden is dead

    1. Nimrodel


      some doctor from egypt is the second in the hierarchy apparently

    2. Darigan


      Bin Laden was for 10 years seen as the man behind the attacks on the US celebrating his death may not be in good taste for some but at the cost of the 3000 lives lost and the many soliders sacrificed over the years it may not signal an end to anything but to those that lost someone it is a measure of closure. Sorry if you all don't like the fact that a long overdue reckoning has been done

    3. Maebius


      I do like the fact that we have finally found him, as Darigan said he's been "Target#1" since the 9/11 attacks, but dispensing justice and celebrating it are two different tones. I'm glad we got him, but not the joy-frenzy it's being hailed as.

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  23. I prefer not to post the answers here, but I might as well, if people want me to.
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