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  1. 5 points
    Handy Pockets

    Citizens of Marind's Bell

    Citizens of Marind's Bell This is my notice of resignation. It will not be an instant resignation. I will not leave Marind's Bell without a monarchy, or a plan in place. It will not be business as usual. I am exhausted. With this extreme weather that hit my area my daily life was in chaos, and no it was not the good kind of chaos. I was 8 days without electricity, internet and even cell phone had terrible connection with towers down (either physically or in their work ability). Finally I am connected, and here is the rub,my internet provider is now down while they do the repairs that they could not do while all the electrical wires were being worked on.(I wrote this while I waited for internet to come back on line) I could not get to Marind's Bell. When I connected to leave messages in mood panel, I would see many who requested teleport and I could do nothing about it. Now in my real life I have less time than I did in my early days. With a new work schedule that includes working six days in a row, and I dont have internet access while at work, not even on my lunch, I will be away from game for over 10 hours on these days and with so many days in a row, I feel this will not be good for MB. The need to go back to University is overwhelming, and I am in process to start back. This has been an exciting time for me. I saw resources become an important part of our daily lives. Many new and good changes have taken place. With my fond memories to take with me, I know the next Queen/King will have the time of their life also. With memories and knowledge of a bright past I wish you healthy days and pleasant dreams in your future. Queen of Marind's Bell QHP kets
  2. 2 points
    [quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1320944568' post='95591'] Is this even allowed? encouraging others to break rules purposely for a quest? Personally i think asking people to break and abuse things is as worse as doing them... [/quote] I actually like the idea of this quest. Since there isn't any normal way to steal in MD, you need to be creative. Given the rules stated above, bugs and scripts, hacking, and anything that would get you reported to council are all out. So you need to find some legitimate way to "steal" without actually breaking the rules. And if you look at MD's past, there certainly are a lot of options. [quote name='Tipu' timestamp='1320944425' post='95590'] Cheating, lies, backstabbing, bullying, blackmailing, robing, anything goes. [/quote] I do however object to this as those things would be harmful to people, however. Bullying and Blackmail are both against MD rules. None of those things helps give MD a good image. The main thing this quest needs to me is better wording, but I am used to reading Tipu's style of writing and understand what he means.
  3. 2 points
    Passant the Weak

    Is this allowed?

    [quote name='Yrthilian' timestamp='1320929391' post='95581'] It is no wonder MD is loosing players by the bucket load when there is nothing but a huge negativity and hatred within the realm. This topic to be honest is pointless. it is just another one of those moan moan moan and nothing ever gets done. [/quote] I am a young player in the realm, I will try to give you a positive answer, so that you see that positive vibes also exist within the realm. When i discovered strange things were happening with the jars (from the log room), I first consulted someone thinking there was an Alt abuse (I had not noticed the char involved was an empty aramor), and when corrected I went to GG to investigate a bit. I left clues of my investigations there at tempest fort. Also on a certain wreck. I also talked with Mighty Pirate (I did not know he was involved). What I would have [b]loved [/b]seeing is some kind of reaction, some kind of Role Play happening. I personnaly believe mighty pirate was a great idea in term of role playing and providing fun and buzz to the realm. But no role play happened. Mighty avoided answering me too directly to not disclose himself as the instigator of this event. I am almost 100% sure that if you, King, and you, Fusioneers, had made this an interactive event in the realm, using Mood Panel to communicate your claim on heat Jars, using your citizens (instead of an empty aramor) to store jars, then we would all have had some fun together. I know already 3 people who were ready to fight you for the jar grabbing (and we did not try to recruit more, as the topic evolved quite fast). Instead, this appeared as an attempt to bypass a game mechanism, using a loophole, and that does not give much fun to anyone. My point: make positive (or at least fun) things, and the realm (well at least young players, as I know those more than I know vets) will react positively and pro-actively.
  4. 2 points
    Udgard

    Is this allowed?

    [quote name='phantasm' timestamp='1320839295' post='95523'] The only two lands I know that has a rule regarding resource collection are LR and GG (with the don't deplete <50% rule). And how have these rules balanced the market? The Tribunal has a rule of no depletion under 60%. Though we have no king (that is ever around for its citizens that is) we have all decided upon this rule and do regular checks to see who is depleting resources. If there is a rule in LR its blatantly disregarded, as almost always there is huge amounts of total depletion in that land. [/quote] Thanks for the additional information. I only have access to the land rules page on the citizenship page (which only has the rules for the mainlands), so it's very useful to know the rules of non-main lands. And yes, unfortunately land rules only apply to citizens, so depletion by non-citizens can't be controlled (and it's hard to keep faith that there are no rule breaches by citizens as well - although I would see why citizens would deplete a resource if they saw the resources are being depleted by outsiders anyways). [quote name='Yrthilian' timestamp='1320841367' post='95526'] The Fusioneer's have the responsibility of managing Heat jar's. Before they got turned into public items the heat jars where used and managed by the fusioneers and that is what they are doing. Managing the tool. Personally i dont care about the announcement of the shared tool as it is a complete contradiction to the alliance role. again remember the tool was the alliances before a bunch more got created and put into shared status. So the fact that the fusioneers feel they have a right to manage such a tool is not unjustified. [/quote] Yes, I can see how the fusioneers (and dowsers and woodcutters) would feel it unfair that their tools are suddenly made public. It doesn't really justify abusing "loopholes" (which is even arguable if there's an actual hole there) to maintain monopoly. Besides, doesn't the fusioneers already get the better end of the stick compared to the other 2 resource guilds? From what I understand the fusioneers still have some tools of their own, while the others lost all their tools and must rely on shared ones (CMIIW here). And as a King, I do think it's really your job to do care about rules that are put on announcement. [quote name='Yrthilian' timestamp='1320841367' post='95526'] To answer to whom gave the permission for Mighty P to do as he has been doing. It was me and i stand by that. This is just a case of Mighty finding a loop hole to the rules that have not been plugged. He is not using an alt. The armours are not ALT's they are something else. They are not necessarily dead account's ether. [/quote] Right, the ALT "loophole". If that's your argument, then I would argue this: [quote][b]Severity warning on tool related crime punishments[/b] Getting tools and placing them on alts will be considered a serious crime from now on. If the interface allows you to, you can grab more than one tool or from more than one location, but [b]using more accounts to take more tools from same place is a CRIME[/b]. Because the obvious temptation that is now bigger than ever with all the new tools and the valuable resources, this crime will be punished more severely than normal. Jail time from 2 month to 4 month plus additional penalties such as confiscating resources on all accounts, trade ban and anything else needed based on the severity of your action. Things will get more and more interesting in the upcoming period, don't spend that time in jail and don't waste my or the Councils time to catch you doing this particular crime. To make things "worse" i am placing a bounty reward for anyone successfully spotting such crime and help catching the criminals.[/quote] You can't normally take more than 1 of a certain type of shared item with one account. MP is using the aramors to take more tools from the same place, so if we're going to argue over semantics I can argue that this whole thing is breaking the rules at the first place anyways. You are a king. Mur himself has stated that he will make changes to the system to prevent [b]this [/b]kind of [b]abuse[/b], yet you do not feel compelled to change your policy? [quote name='Yrthilian' timestamp='1320841367' post='95526'] This sort of thing has been done many times in the past and has always been abused. Just when someone has done it with a tool like this now you all complain. Why didn't you moan about the woodcutters and their abuse? But if that is the case then nardolsk i think is it should stop taking all the water tools like he has been as that is a worse case of abuse. that what you lot are moaning about but you have done nothing to stop him or complain much about it. So if you are going to start picking on this sort of thing then bring every one into it that is abusing and not just the one guild or player. But all of them and i mean ALL of them. It is funny how you lot decided to gang up on one player until they give up and not bother others whom have been abusing the system for a much longer time. [/quote] Personally, I didn't complain about this "abuse" of shared tools that the woodcutters and nad are supposedly doing since I don't even know it exists. But I find it utterly ridiculous to tell myself not to do anything about an abuse that does come into my knowledge simply because I do not know of all the other abuses that have been happening. [quote name='Yrthilian' timestamp='1320841367' post='95526'] The only reason this is coming to light is that is has curved the greed a little and the greedy are upset by it. All this has come down to one thing farming what ever you can and abuse it all. To me all you lot are doing is making a mess of what should have been a wonderful system. [/quote] Uh, news flash! I've never even picked a heat jar before and don't have any plan on doing so in the near future. And if it's just greed for resource I could just take the materials I get from making items for people for myself (there's no rule on what I can do with those other than my self-imposed rule, you know). So.. could you tell me why the hell am I here again?
  5. 1 point
    ChildOfTheSoul

    Citizens of Marind's Bell

    I have only been a citizen of Marind Bell for a short time, but during that time and even before I have appreciated your presence and your leadership. At least you won't be leaving out of anger and unhappiness.
  6. 1 point
    dragonrider7

    Citizens of Marind's Bell

    Really sad to hear that and I wonder why these resignations happening only to MB........dont resign Handy...we all are with you. -rider
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    Rendril

    Scene change question

    Carroll's work is public domain.
  8. 1 point
    phantasm

    Woodcutter Tools

    there is a mill in GG....what kind of mill is up to the imagination
  9. 1 point
    Lord Jaguar

    Citizens of Marind's Bell

    Thank you Handy Pockets for being a leader, a fun person to talk to, a trusted adviser, and a friend. It won't be the same with out you as Queen. I wish you the best of luck in all of your endeavors, and in rebuilding around your home. With highest regards, -Lord Jaguar
  10. 1 point
    Brulant

    Woodcutter Tools

    This is a bit off topic, but I think it would be interesting to have a clickable on a scene that would take heat and lumber and turn it into various different planks. Like a lumber mill. Lumber mills obviously don't fit in your pocket, but it would be pretty feasible to have it on a scene.... if we had a scene with a lumber mill in it, that is. I like that idea, though. Taking raw items to specific scenes that have cauldrons in clickables to have them processed.
  11. 1 point
    Princess Katt

    Citizens of Marind's Bell

    I am so sorry to hear this. We will not be the same without you. But I do wish you the best of luck, of course Princess Katt
  12. 1 point
    Udgard

    Is this allowed?

    [quote name='Mighty Pirate' timestamp='1320833034' post='95513'] Some remarks (explicitely not for Pips). Currently, the heat jar market is unbalanced. Compare that to resourses where there are land rules in place to balance supply and demand. Currently we have very high supply of heat jars for low demand. So what I do is just a way to balance the market. Remember that the guilds goal is to make money with heat jars. Read the related annoucements. I know that not everybody likes this but that's the way it was announced. As for permission - I asked for permission before and I got permission. As for the announcement cited several times here: I did not use alts for this. I did not hoard items. (Many people hoard stuff, most popular are probably memory stones. I do not.) Items are meant to be used by many people - I absolutely agree to this. Actually, they can be used by all, I'm not aware that there is a single person in this realm who is unable to use a heat jar. If you interpret this announcement as "all should get heat jars for free" - No, this contradicts our guilds goal and it has never been announced that way. A final word to all police men and judges: There is no injured party and no denied privilege. This is just something that you might not like. But that's nothing new, all threads dealing with resources and land laws are full of similar complains. I'm happy to discuss more in a calm way. [/quote] Sadly, I would have to disagree with your argument. First of all thought, I need to ask which resources are you referring to when you say "Compare that to resourses where there are land rules in place to balance supply and demand"? The only two lands I know that has a rule regarding resource collection are LR and GG (with the don't deplete <50% rule). And how have these rules balanced the market? As far as I know, heat is one of the more highly demanded resource, being a resource that is needed for the only creatable cauldron item at the moment (aromatic tea). If you're talking about low demand vs high supply, other "useless" resources such as all the wood products, poison herbs etc would be in a more dire situation than heat. (And I'd like to remind everyone again that heat jars are also usable directly in a cauldron, not just heat stones). Why would heat need such a monopoly more than those other resources? The guild's goal is.. to collect heat. At least that's the only thing mentioned about purpose in the announcements. Yes, guilds are allowed to gather money with the tools you have at your disposal, but I don't think money collection was ever the main purpose of any guild in MD. [quote][b]Fusioneers - New heat based guild[/b] A new resource based guild was founded, based in GG. This guild will gather..HEAT. For that purpose they were provided with advanced tools, Heat jars and associated Heat Solidifiers. The jars will be given to other people to load with heat and return to them. The Fusioneers will be able to store that heat into memory stones and create Heat stones (casting heat spell). For that they will obviously need Memory stone resource in large quantities. Leadership was granted by GG King to Kiley second by Mighty Pirate. 3 more seats left in the guild, but requirements will be very strict, considering the special activity of this guild. [/quote] Please clarify who exactly gave you the permission you mentioned you have. Was it the council/Mur? Since the whole issue would be different if it were.. [quote]As for the announcement cited several times here: I did not use alts for this. [/quote] Although you're treading on a gray area here with "those are not my accounts" stuff, shared tools in the first place are not meant to be just passed around to other accounts(especially "dead accounts" like the aramors) like what you're doing - they're not transferrable except via ITC. Heat jars are a unique in that they can be passed around like normal items, but only because they need to be easily transferrable to use the heat, not so this difference can be abused to hide the tools. What you're doing is clearly not the intended use of the heat jar's transferability. [quote] I did not hoard items. (Many people hoard stuff, most popular are probably memory stones. I do not.)[/quote] The announcement explicitly says it is meant to be used by many people though. How is what you're doing not directly going against what is stated in the announcement? [quote][b]All shared items have been returned to their original place.[/b] Go grab your favorite tool and engoy it till the next regroup. Try avoiding cauldron type items just before this regrouping takes place (same date and hour weekly) as they will regroup even if they are in use. Item keep some of the modified values on regrouping. You should not use alts to store multiple shared items and you should not hoard them, these items are [b]meant to be used by many people[/b] not hoarded by a few.[/quote] [quote]Items are meant to be used by many people - I absolutely agree to this. Actually, they can be used by all, I'm not aware that there is a single person in this realm who is unable to use a heat jar. If you interpret this announcement as "all should get heat jars for free" - No, this contradicts our guilds goal and it has never been announced that way. [/quote] There is lots of people in this realm who is unable to use a heat jar - not when they're hidden away in an empty aramors's hollow suit. Btw, the announcement did announce things "that" way, you know... [quote][b]Shared Tools[/b] A vast majority of tool items will be turned into shared tools. Shared tools can be picked up in a fixed place, probably the capital of each land or other suitable locations. After a time they will spawn back there to be picked up by someone else or same person (time and way they are picked up is not final yet). All current tools except a few ones and the tools marked as "independent" will move to this new way of using tools. The guilds responsible with resources will remain as they are but their purpose will shift to a new direction when their tools will be migrated to the shared system. This is a major concept change and won't come easy to do. [b]During this process all migrated tools can be taken freely from the item dispatch places described[/b], but eventually, tools will be "rented" by each land and resource guilds will have a much better purpose and way to determine hierarchy (based on skill). This way tools will remain always in action and anyone could work for his resource related role and will not depend on joining a guild or receiving such a role as a gift. As always, use the forum for commenting this.[/quote] NB: @passant: thx for the explanation on the mechanics
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    The dark age has begun. The lord Tipu unleashing the first ever [b]Fugitive quest : " The Master of all Stealer "[/b] [b]Mission[/b] : Is to steal others property by what ever means(Rules apply see below). It can be either coins, items, creatures, avatars, or anything that can be stolen.(use ur imagination to the fullest). Cheating, lies, backstabbing, bullying, blackmailing, robing, anything goes. (Even Fugitives have Honor and Code) [b]Rules[/b] : 1) Bugs/ Scripts not allowed. 2) Hacking/ Stealing passwords of others account not allowed. 3) U need to hold the "stolen property" until the end of this Quest. U may if u want can return the stolen property back on good will after the Quest ends or can keep it to satisfy ur greedy needs hehe. 4) All ur fugitive adventures( proof with screen shots) should be posted in this part of the forums. So that we can verify ur bragging. 5) If someone complains ur action to council members or take u to court then its ur problem and this Quest won't protect u. So take calculative risk. (There is no gain without a pain) 6) Don't even think of cheating me. If u dare then u will be a Victim to my Fart Attack for eternity hehe. [b]Duration[/b] : The Quest will run until 31 Dec 2011. [b]Judging[/b]: The winners will be judged by three judges. (Judges will be announced latter currently hunting them down) Judging will be based on the valuable of the stolen items, planning, tricks, time, and other things too. [b]Rewards [/b]: Sponsored by treasure keepers. Remember the cheaters who get caught r called fools but those who don't get caught r called Fugitives. Do u have what it takes to be a Fugitive? if so then show the world ur dark side hehe. MDers Start insuring ur valuables items or creatures or urself...Yes whether u like it or not u r already a part of this Quest. Cos' this is no ordinary Quest it is FUGITIVE GUEST and during this time Hell will be relocated down to Magic duel. Let the chaos Begin... Muwahahahahum......
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    phantasm

    Scene change question

    A scene in the Tribunal has been changed. I am a bit rust on the rules and regulations on such things. Territory: Lands Of The East Coord: 7_intown_1 Tags: none The Road to Eros (I would assume this was done by the character Ero, or in reference to) User submitted info: Alice came to a fork in the road. \"Which road do I take?\" she asked. \"Where do you want to go?\" responded the Cheshire cat. \"I don\'t know,\" Alice answered. \"Then,\" said the cat, \"it doesn\'t matter.\" References to a fictional book "Alice in Wonderland" Is this all kosher?
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    phantasm

    Halloween Packages

    Congrats to Shadowseeker who gets the reward for the quest. He worked hard for his reward im sure of that. Thanks to the TKs for saying my quest was the best one.
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    Mya Celestia

    Scene change question

    [color=#008080][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Liberty plains and Jesters street/door are actual coordinate names.[/font][/color]
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    Kyphis the Bard

    Scene change question

    Fair enough, my mistake
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    Pipstickz

    Scene change question

    Actually, Plains of Liberty and Jester's Door are subtitles, Tribunal has no scene names.
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    Grido

    Scene change question

    So in summary, I'd say it is all "kosher" The Road to Love, works in combination with the scene description as well (I don't think any reference to the road to ERO would make sense)
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    Pipstickz

    Is this allowed?

    Suit yourself, Yrth. I'd like to thank both Kiley and Mighty Pirate for their understanding, and I ask that this thread be closed, since the issue is resolved.
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    Kyphis the Bard

    Scene change question

    Look [url="http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/alice11.html#9"]here[/url]
  22. 0 points
    Kiley

    Is this allowed?

    As leader of the Fusioneers, I take full responsibility for the actions of all guild members. I was aware of MPs actions and supported it, but will go on record saying that greed was not my motivation. Anyone that has dealt with me knows that the last thing I am is greedy. In truth I thought it humorous and that it would lead many to a scavenger hunt of sorts. The who, what, and what the hell happened:) I do hope this does not turn into a forum war as this is the last thing I wanted. Mighty Pirate's character goes hand in hand with his actions. He is a pirate afterall. As for the other members of the guild, they were not aware of his actions.
  23. -1 points
    Mighty Pirate

    Is this allowed?

    I'd like to add this announcement, just because it is missing in this thread: Ann. 1971 - [2011-08-10 07:42:54 - Stage 10] Fusioneers will receive an additional (separate) set of heat containers to be leased based on reasons/price/rules they decide, for common use. Heat containers just store heat and allow heat powered devices to function (cauldron type, sand melters, and a lot more to come).
  24. -1 points
    Mighty Pirate

    Is this allowed?

    [quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1320881532' post='95558'] Mighty Pirate, even if I have my way and you are not officially punished, you are still responsible for what you've done. I hope you'll at least try to take that responsibility seriously, rather than the way you've been responding to this topic. I ask you to consider the effects your actions have caused for not only yourself, but your guild. I can't speak for others, but I, personally, don't want to trade with someone who is so willing to cheat the system and worse yet, someone who doesn't seem to see or care how drastic their actions have been, as long as they get off without a hitch. Nonetheless, time will tell if you have learned something or not. [/quote] No doubt about that - I will take any punishment seriously. And for sure, I have already learned a lot from this discussion. And yes, I do care how drastic my actions have been - otherwise I wouldn't join this discussion. I talked to several people before I did it and I will continue discussing this with whoever cares.
  25. -1 points
    This has interesting implications. On one parts, stealing is bad, blah blah blah. On the other, this could allow for a character to "grow" into a Grey Fox. (11/11/11!!!!!) I'm going to watch where this goes.
  26. -2 points
    Yrthilian

    Is this allowed?

    LOL @ PIP suddenly you make your self the one who cares?????? who made you the police??? Look i dont care what you think or why you think it. Currently i dont care about much at all. As regards penalty point i aint gona care about that ether. I did what is within my given ablity to do. I made a decision that effected a tool that is on Golemus land. What you, Chewy (the almighty) or anyone else want to believe or not believe does not matter. To thoes saying the mighty taking the tool from the same place is agents the rule then the water dowsers are just as guilty for having multiple of the same bloody tool. How about this. I will make the tipical responce that is made towards any LR player or someone that brings other things to light. you are all just a bunch on moaners. Get over it. Making post about it apparently does not solve the stupid issue. PIP is just pip he like to create DRAMA just for the hell of it so i dont see this being a topic of any worth when he is involved. As regards me in game. You have not interacted with me in game to know anything that is going on. When it comes to the forum you ALL know by now when i state something official from me as KING i use a sig. Me as a player think you all need to get off the band wagon just for a small bit and learn to embrace things and not jump on the forums and have a bloody moan about things. It is no wonder MD is loosing players by the bucket load when there is nothing but a huge negativity and hatred within the realm. This topic to be honest is pointless. it is just another one of those moan moan moan and nothing ever gets done. Well with my little rant there it might as it seem to only take someone going on on of this stupid rant to get any notice or action. So lets see if little pippy gets his supposed way. But it wont matter as for one i wont give a (insert word not allowed to be used)
  27. -3 points
    Tipu

    Citizens of Marind's Bell

    So finally i will get my MB citizenship back muwahahaha...
  28. -4 points
    Yrthilian

    Is this allowed?

    moan moan moan I dont care dont you get that??? have fun with the moaning session.
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