Jump to content

Leaderboard


Popular Content

Showing content with the highest reputation on 01/07/2011 in all areas

  1. 3 points
    Burns

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    [quote name='(Zl-eye-f)-nea' timestamp='1294354739' post='76992'] Is it? I really don't think it is. In the alternative version of this thread that Kafuuka made [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/8805-a-partial-solution-to-mp-levels-being-broken/page__p__76283#entry76283"]here[/url] I explained how by reasoning the only viable end result of this idea here is an attempt at re-populating MP5, it won't actually do anything else it claims to attempt as far as I can tell. [/quote] I'll try to explain my reasoning and arguments, if you/anybody think that this is about getting newbies for mp5. I think that there shouldn't be any rituals that can't be beaten without lots of shop features. I see that it's unavoidable for MP5, though, simply because MD needs to make money of something. 5 is ultimate fighting, fine, then ultimate fighting. But i think that doesn't have to be the case in MP3 and 4. THAT is my argument. I'm certain that anybody who complains here has vast knowledge of the stats of the creatures in question, so i don't need to spoil. Seeing MP3 is MP3, and personal stats are therefore neglectable. In MP4, they do a little, but no more than, say, 100-150 attack and defence. So, example 1: Angien on lvl 3 has a bit of defence, as you are aware. Compare that defence to, say, the attack of a dark archer, aramor assassin, grasan II. You see a little problem yet? example 2: Drachorn level 4 already deals that much damage. With considerable VE on it. Seeing that the common everyday drachorn comes with critboost these days... If i say 150 damage i'm pretty much on the lower end of a _big_ scale. Compare that to the damage of the formerly mentioned usual mp3 creatures. And their Vitalities. Same in blue for MP4. They have a little stronger creatures and a bit more stats, but compared to angien's defence or drachorn's damage, their usual creatures are but little bugs waiting to be squished. Here goes my argument summarized: I don't want those creatures to be accessible to MP3 and MP4 because there are other players who might enjoy the game in all its aspects, also fighting, who stop after a few days because the general message of fighting such rituals is the following: To stand a good ground on NEWBIE level, i need to invest about 60 bucks now AND wait for 2 months. For the WEAKEST of the THREE levels of combat. THAT is my problem about it.
  2. 3 points
    (Zl-eye-f)-nea

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    [quote name='Udgard' timestamp='1294289185' post='76925'] The first one, I don't think will object much to the proposed requirements, [/quote] They already have, multiple times, both in this thread and others. [quote name='Udgard' timestamp='1294289185' post='76925'] And no, people are not supposed to wait for their angiens to have max age before going mp5.. [/quote] Of course people want to age their crits before levelling. If you were new now, I'm sure you would too. All this "supposed to" and "not supposed to" is making my head hurt. The newer players who do talk oppose what is being suggested for them and when they do they get told they are wrong...but its for them right? so....surely their statements are pretty important? Actually arn't their statements the most important? Or are we in Plato's republic? Look at HeHelpedMe here, getting negged for not understanding. Ridiculous. He is one of the only lower AD lower MP people giving comment. He should be listened to and discussed with. His opinion is more valuable because he is actually in the group that is supposedly trying to be helped. If you actually want to help, work with people like him, he is the target population supposedly being supported by this initiative and he opposes it. [quote name='Udgard' timestamp='1294289185' post='76925'] I think lately there has been to many illusions of "mp5s/vets only wanting to get more people to move up so they can pound them". The thing is, staying mp3/mp4 for eternity won't help people prepare to fight the "vets". People at mp5 has access to much faster stat growth than an mp3/4 can ever hope for, so the longer people stay there, the wider the gap between power they will have. And really, what can those so called vets do to pound on fresh mp5s that has actual consequence to those fresh ones? Combat losses are needed for balance, and tree rits easily prevent damage to your main army. [/quote] Having maxed creatures like angiens does help beat other players like MP5s who have maxed power creatures, so in that sense it does help. In addition the mp3/4s arn't all saying they are staying at lower levels in order to be capable of beating the MP5s. A number of them are saying they are staying there because there is just no point in going MP5 at all due to current MP5 attitudes and actions. These "illusions" you speak of are the voices of those that are supposedly trying to be aided. So listen and work with them. Even I think they are right, I've done testing on it and I have come to the conclusion that they are correct - but I'm not foolish enough to think that I really understand fully because no matter how much testing I do, I the player am a vet of the game and they are not. [quote name='No one' timestamp='1294322846' post='76964'] Should I remind you about MP4s with 10k attack ? PPL this is for your own good, for MD's future. [/quote] Is it? I really don't think it is. In the alternative version of this thread that Kafuuka made [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/8805-a-partial-solution-to-mp-levels-being-broken/page__p__76283#entry76283"]here[/url] I explained how by reasoning the only viable end result of this idea here is an attempt at re-populating MP5, it won't actually do anything else it claims to attempt as far as I can tell. [quote name='Kafuuka' timestamp='1294338639' post='76981'] I claim that nobody who has never had an mp5 account, supports this idea. [/quote] I'd agree, and I'd go further. Some people who have MP5 accounts also don't support it. Z
  3. 2 points
    No one

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    @Z: [quote name='No one' timestamp='1294322846' post='76964'] Also, the limitation will also reduce the gaps between players in same MP (MP3 / MP4). ... Should I remind you about MP4s with 10k attack ? PPL this is for your own good, for MD's future. [/quote] I don't care about differences between MP3 & MP4 or MP4 & MP5. Read my words: I DON'T CARE . [quote name='(Zl-eye-f)-nea' timestamp='1294354739' post='76992'] Look at HeHelpedMe here, getting negged for not understanding. ... His opinion is more valuable because he is actually in the group that is supposedly trying to be helped. ... [/quote] I did, so many times, tried to reason with young players. The problem is that you have to raise him to your lvl to make him understand. Otherwise he does not (want to ) understand. If I would have liked to do that I would have been an LHO. [quote name='(Zl-eye-f)-nea' timestamp='1294354739' post='76992'] Having maxed creatures like angiens does help beat other players like MP5s who ... [/quote] I don't even want to let MP3 fight MP5s, I am against it. I petitioned everyone I can think that has a decision in this to forbid MP3s in alliances/TC/HC. MP3 must only fight / compare to MP3. MP4 must only fight / compare to MP4. (see the 10k stats that I'm insisting) MP5 ... when you get bored you get to MP5 too. All you have to consider is that extreme stats are NOT NORMAL. Players with such stats are less then 15% / MP and for MP3 & 4 we have this option to limit their interference. I DON'T CARE if they want to stay in lower MP as long as they are within reasonable limits (the limits that we're discussing about) from the average players in that MP. I.m.o. MP3 & MP4 should not even be bothered about these limits as long as they don't want to get uber stats and that is the exact reason I want the limits implemented. So, the rest of the players (mostly MP5) should only talk about how "reasonable" a limit should be and where one is missing.
  4. 2 points
    HeHelpedMe

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    More restrictions in MD coming up then... MD is becoming more and more focused on literally forcing players to get to mp5 instead of letting them enjoy it their own way. One thing is sure: no matter what you do, you won't be able to force people to play MD. I'm not going to get to mp5 anyway. If I'm forced to do so against my will I'll simply stop playing MD (like many others did). I guess that I wouldn't be the only person doing so. But now I'm just going to get rid of my younger Angiens and only keep the oldest as a collector's value.
  5. 2 points
    HeHelpedMe

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    I wasn't supposed to post any message in this section again, but... I still care about what happens to MD so here goes. I strongly dislike the idea of that kind of requirement. I don't have any alts myself and I'm not going to create one ever. I have only my main account and that's really enough. And that should be enough for most of the players. In my opinion, the true problem which leads to alt abuse is the existence of alts. Seriously, how many alts were actually meant for creating another character for role playing needs? 10 percent? Doubt it, probably even less. All the rest is used for storing additional creatures, goofing around and for all kinds of so called "alt abuse". And now you're planning to mess up the gameplay even more with those restrictions. So me and many other players at mp3 and mp4 levels, who don't have alts and don't abuse any MD rules will have to face the consequences. All the bored mp5s who send their drachs and other monstrosities to their mp3/mp4 alts will be fine, as their mp5 main won't face any restrictions. I'm at mp4 and don't want to progress to mp5. I have few Angiens which were obtained legally and I put a lot of time and effort into training them. And now me and other players who don't have any alts are going to be punished with severe creature downgrade because of abuse done by others? Excellent... I've noticed that most of the ideas and changes are only mp5 friendly. Mp3 and mp4 just need to quickly get to mp5 and be farmed and grinded into cat food by the "vets".
  6. 1 point
    Chewett

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    [quote name='Kafuuka' timestamp='1294439122' post='77075'] I thought the dojo got replaced by the sparring grounds and that the times of 'oh noes i got attacked' were long gone? But suppose it is not, who is giving this people those tips? I don't, none of the real mp3s or mp4s could, unless they have been here long enough to have figured out what to train and by then they're not real noobs anymore anyway. [/quote] Iv seen it many a time, both people complaining that they got attacked ONCE and have all their ve, AND people telling new mp3's to get "angiens" because they will "need" them. you just need to sit at MDNP for any period of time to see the horror that mp3/4 has become. Burns/someone made a very good point that there are people in mp5 who have never bought knators becuase they have been told they are "rubbish" We have some serious issues with problems like crit leveling and such, when noobs are asking "what creatuers i should get" a lot of people just tell them to get angiens and such, Instead we need to encourage diversity and ritual understanding. Otherwise they get to mp5 and are beaten up because they have no clue how to withstand a "real" attack because they havent had to before now.
  7. 1 point
    [quote name='Ravenstrider' timestamp='1294402159' post='77024'] But one thing is different: No protection on mp5... And most can't handle it... That's what's different... And, no, I don't believe it's a joke, it's just that people get used to one form of training and then, pow, mp5 and it's a different story... And they go: Oh, darn... I'm not protected any more...[/quote] That's an argument against dojos/sparring grounds/etc., though, not an indictment of life at MP5. Many of us who have been around for a long time remember being crushed by vets constantly. If you care enough, you find a way to get your own. Burns, while I like your idea and agree with you, No one, and Chewy on all counts, I do worry that many might suffer at the expense of a few who are likely to find other ways to exert their combat dominance at low Mind-Power levels. When Zlei and Kafuuka* point out that those most concerned about the problem seem to be MP5s like us, they have a point. Frankly I hate these practices and would love to see those guilty of them banned and their houses burned down. But you know, I don't want to see MD become a police state. If dst and I were allowed to ban all the people we would like to see removed from MD, we would probably ban everyone in the game, probably including each other, until you were the only player left. It's not fair to expect Mur to review every damned account in the game until the abusers are rooted out - the task is just too big, and he has far, far better things to do with his time. It's too big for the Council, I suspect, and again, we don't want to turn an experiment like MD into a police state. And even then, it's like trying to squeeze the water out of a teflon balloon. I think it's better to express our displeasure personally, just as individuals and not Burns the Almighty LHO or Tarq the Emperor of The Moon That Really Is There, to people who are being wankers and say: Hey, man. I think you're being a wanker. To everyone who wants to see MD become a better game, I say: try giving a drach or a cool item to someone whose conduct impresses you. From my experience, I doubt you'll regret it. *[size="1"]I do not include Kyphis, who like Keith and Konstantin is my alt.** **no, not really. But hey, K-name, ex-Legend Speaker... you never know.[/size]
  8. 1 point
    Ravenstrider

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    I believe the system is fine as it is and that this isn't a very good idea for multiple reasons. If someone wants a strong alt, they will make it... Why? Superior knowledge... If one can afford himself a drachorn on an alt, why not a fully tokened pimpy? It's not that hard to almost max your principles on let's say mp4 and not reach the cap... God bless the park protection... Should we limit the level on grassans as well? But they only have three and it's not that hard to reach the max level on mp3... for anyone, not just alts... You won't solve anything with this... It could only make things worse. And ask yourselves this: Are those that quit because it's too hard to win against people really what we want in MD? Diversifying I'd support... Limiting... Not as much... Note: I was struggling with combat both on mp3 and mp4 and I haven't really learned to make rits until mp5... I'm still not really all that good, but I've acquired some creatures and I'm swimming in the stormy cold waters of mp5... I knew a few people that quit MD and the reason was always: I can't beat anyone on mp5, I'm too weak... and a few who left because of only having contact with new mp3/mp4 people and not liking some of the god modding and unrealistic rp... Instead of forcing people to mp5, maybe we should try and prepare them for it? How? Beats me... But I would try to help the best way I could.
  9. 1 point
    HeHelpedMe

    Happy Birthday Voldon and Mysecka

    Happy Birthday Voldon and Mysecka ! Why one topic for 2 people? Because they're a dude and dudette from Poland having birthday on the same day! That's kind of fun.
  10. 1 point
    Darigan

    Thank You

    We're here for ya Roland, ever ya need anything within our powers as a community.
  11. 1 point
    Mya Celestia

    Security Letters Not Recognized

    [color="#8B0000"][font="Palatino Linotype"]I have trouble with the font of the letters especially S and 8. I've had to refresh it several times to get ones that I can read. Even then I get the message that Cutler did, which forces to repeat the process. Funny thing is ky does eventually come up and works [/font][/color]
  12. 1 point
    Chewett

    Security Letters Not Recognized

    Anything posted below this post that has anything to do with KY or similar will be removed, anything not constructive will also be removed, warn levels will be added. This is a forum, you are not to have fun!
  13. 1 point
    Chewett

    Abuse Of Silence Spell

    Rheagar, please use your brain next time to you wish "report" such matters. Firstly you see that the post has been made by RPC's which no longer exist, so you use the topic anyway to bring an abuse to light... ok ish. Disrespect on Lhos? Just becase dst is an lho, doesnt mean her every action is labled as a lho, she surely has to stand up to a higher level of intorrogation of her actions but im sure it would have been easier to pm grido if you are that worried about the Lho's name. Also if you are so worried, why are you highlighting an issue with them, further bringing their name "down" as you are already worried about it? 160 AD is not new at all... Look at what raven has done here, look at all the avatars he has produced and such. If you want to have the elitist "Oh he is only a noob becuase he only has been here X day and iv been here Y days" then you are most definitely a noob for posting this topic Rheagar, only having been here for 700ish days. The abuse is a minor one, having cast the spell once or so. The only "crime" is making me waste time which i could be doing other things, ranting and closing this topic. One abuse is nothing to make a post about, So i dont want everyone making a post about it, if someone is abusing it greatly, and there are people doing so, then collect evidence, and email and post it here or email [council] The topic is closed, the topic is unpinned.
  14. 1 point
    Asterdai

    WTS "MAGIC" CTC crits

    Asterdai's discussion post (to be edited if any questions need to be answered) nice starting bid Sasha, thanks Reminder - please just edit your first and only post, and check back here for any updates. [color="#FF0000"] ( Vornicel has requested a time when the sale will end, so its only fair to place a date, Fri 14th Jan 11:59, its then i can decide whether a high enough bid for the creatures has been reached, if i decide not to sell a compensation will be paid to the highest bidder if the bid was close but not good enough, at my discretion)[/color] Highest latest bid requested by sasha, Santa - IAB (4 gold) Ele - Dragonrider (4 gold) BP - BigC (2 gold 5 silver) Sharptear - Mr Mystery(4 gold) O.o VERY good point, that i had forgot to mention, a creature LOSES its MAGIC code after transfer. thanks for the question Sasha, if it alters your bids please feel free to change them.
  15. 1 point
    Shadowseeker

    painting

    On the dangers of being offtopic..I don't play alts, one of the reason is my commitment to only one account, and the second actually being how harsh it is as an MP3. I made one, but sadly missed the ID I was aiming for back then, still, the few minutes I occasionally used it made me agonize in the thought of training creatures and things, the sheer mass of time needed to invest until the account would be on a similiar level to Shadowseeker. I mean, just a comparison- how many replied to this, while how many bothered to reply to Ungern? He's quite a bright newbie it seemed, from what I got maybe even best quester this year. Just saying, the effects of this are very harsh.
  16. 1 point
    awiiya

    Standing On The Literary Shoreline

    The time has come for the stories to be read to me. So far, the majority of people who have posted here have succeeded in doing just that, with Malaikat Mut and Aysun still to go. The deadline for reading to me is two weeks from today. In addition, if you write a story between now and then, you may still read it to me and you will be considered for the reward. This quest is more about literary skill than deadlines - I trust that you can follow directions, there is no need to test that. The reward will be given to who I think had the best story. Yes this is subjective, but keep in mind it's a personal item that should be passed down according to the rules of the original owner (namely, me). Awi
  17. 1 point
    Tarquinus

    Wts reindrach for creatures

    I offer a shade.
  18. 1 point
    Burns

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    By no means do i want to discourage general population to be picky about the requirements. I just asked Mur to take a general stand. Because i want to know if he finds such account inappropriate or not. I am indeed fairly certain that i won't be able to find a non-alt mp3 with a drachorn, or an angien over lvl 2. You're right that angiens make nice quest rewards, but they most definitely won't reach lvl 3 on a plain, normal mp3 account, simply due to the age requirement on them. Other than that, no, Kyphis, restricting creatures doesn't make things worse. I have done serious combat for a long, long time, and there is very little in MD that can't be beaten with strategy. But some things, like big angiens or boosted drachorns, require advanced creatures and/or high stats i haven't yet seen on any normal mp4 accounts. I neither want to restrict diversity, nor collectors, but it seems that very many people lack the common sense some show. It hurts a lot to restrict all over the abuse of a few, but apparently there is no other way to stop a selected few of abusing the mp-system. I would, by lots, prefer to ban the accounts that receive the monstrous creatures of older accounts. But it seems that this is not an option in the current set of rules, unless it's flawlessly proven that the accounts in question are alts. If you don't believe me, ask the Wookie, he knows them just as well.
  19. 1 point
    Kyphis the Bard

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    And where does this idea leave Alliance members? I'm not a fan of this idea. As most of you know, I have spent an exceptional amount of time at each of the MP levels (except two, that was about 3 days to try out illusions then hurry on), but I plan to be MP5 at the end of January so this plan wouldn't effect me. So why do I dislike this idea? Kafuuka. Tipu. Zleiphener. Many other people who are not causing any sort of problem, and are quite happy to play all the OTHER parts of MD as MP4. If this restriction had been in place from the day I had joined, I would not be an MP5 right now. I would, in fact not PLAY right now. That's nothing about combat, but that if the first thing I saw was that "Oh, the game is restricting my choices and being like every other linear game, I guess its not what it advertised then..." I just wouldn't care. Final point: THIS WON'T FIX ANYTHING IN THE LONG TERM. IT WILL MAKE THINGS WORSE. Currently, the ceiling is anything available. Alts who know how to train and get around alt checks have those anything availables. With this method, we find ourselves facing, surprise surprise, once again anything available, just a smaller selection. Everyone at each MP level has the same restriction, so the result is: A-i) "Oh, there is no point training this creature more since that's its level cap, lets train other devastating creatures now." A-ii) "Well, I might not be able to get a level 4 Drachorn, but neither can anyone else, so I'll still train mine to level 3 since it is effectively the same." B) You are restricting ritual diversity, meaning that you are re-introducing the problem you complained about with MP3/4 not knowing how to fight in preparation for the next MP level. "Oh look, water Daimon/Knator/Elemental/Bird/Angien is almost useless like this, so I might as well sacc it and never train one again"
  20. 1 point
    (Zl-eye-f)-nea

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    Clearly, passing aged crits onto your low level alts is an abuse, you arn't supposed to trade crits between alts - there is even a built in function to stop it that you have to go around. Don't kid a kidder. If this is the problem then why isnt this being looked into instead of trying to change the entire system? Z
  21. 1 point
    Kafuuka

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    [quote name='Udgard' timestamp='1293635657' post='76276'] AFAIK alt abuse is making alts simply to benefit your main. Transferring creatures from mains to alts does not seem like alt abuse to me, unless it is done only to age them and send them back to the main. [/quote] And who decides which alt is the 'main'? Alt abuse is the valid term whenever one uses an alt to get an unfair advantage on another alt. 99% of the time the alt that benefits is the alt we would call the main, however it's not a requirement.
  22. 1 point
    Tipu

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    But plz this rule should only apply for Alt accounts and not for other MP4 players who aren't Alts.
  23. 0 points
    Kafuuka

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    [quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1294437812' post='77068'] You cant chastise someone for not knowing something lol. The bigger issue is then that these mp3/4's are being taught to not go to mp5, and specially train certain things up without learning why. Which is something i would say is encouraged by some mp4's [/quote] According to Burns that is not what this thread is about. As for being encouraged and/or discouraged, that happens on all levels, by all levels and across all levels. The mp5s are scaring people by posting negative mp5 related threads on the forum. They are encouraging to level up asap in the game though. Not necessarily the same people or at the same time though. As an mp4 on the forum I probably dissuade people implicitly from moving up. In the game, and you'll have to take my word for that, I tell people they should decide for themselves after listing all the facts and give them some pro's and cons. Note that by the time I take to write out such a balanced response, half of the people who said 'should I level up' in chat, have gotten at least three 'yes of course' response, without any arguments at all, and have already pushed the button... [quote] The whole learning process is screwed up when people sit in the dojo complaining about each and every loss, while being told what to train and not learning about the rits. This is much more important than preventing alts. [/quote] I thought the dojo got replaced by the sparring grounds and that the times of 'oh noes i got attacked' were long gone? But suppose it is not, who is giving this people those tips? I don't, none of the real mp3s or mp4s could, unless they have been here long enough to have figured out what to train and by then they're not real noobs anymore anyway. [quote] ANY mp4 can survive at mp5 whatever the stats/crits as long as they have the basics of ritual making, including some decent "ve protecting, crit protecting" rits. [/quote] Ironically, if we take the same argument but substitute mp3 for mp4 and mp5, they can survive against the horrors which Burns wants to protect them against. Let me put it this way: there is no mp4 conspiracy to make mp5 suck more. I would start one, if there were a need for it, but it seems to me mp5 are already doing good enough a job by themselves. Just take a look around: messages on the mood panel like 'please level up faster and become my punchbags' or private logs stating 'you're too weak to be mp5, go back to mp4' etc. Don't tell me those were ironic statements by those people.
  24. 0 points
  25. 0 points
    apophys

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    [quote name='(Zl-eye-f)-nea' timestamp='1294354739' post='76992'] I'd agree, and I'd go further. Some people who have MP5 accounts also don't support it. Z [/quote] I'm mp5, and I don't support the proposal. Back when I was mp4; I didn't notice any superpowered people except Nadrolski and Lazarus, neither of which were going around and terrorizing other mp4s. Don't fix what isn't broken. I personally was able to get my angiens to pre-max level at the end of mp4,btw. It felt wonderful. Don't take that away.
  26. 0 points
    Mr Mystery

    WTS "MAGIC" CTC crits

    2GC GC BP 4GC Sharptear
  27. 0 points
    Chewett

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    Mp3/4 wouldnt be afraid of mp5 if people didnt continually say they will be pounded when they arrive. The fact is they will be, but everyone is... If you want everyone to wait to mp4 then the problem will merely move down there. I have been mp5 for a massive amount of time, didnt bother waiting at mp4 because at that time, you would be beaten up in any mindpower. This was because anyone could attack anyone. You learnt how to set def rits that would only lose that crit as you needed to learn. Now people come to mp5 and are surprised that people attack them without asking Gasp! Its an eventuality that you will be beaten up in mp5, i sat in the Marble Dale Park and had eon hitting me every single timer, but i merely set some bad def rits and let him hit them. It didnt effect me as it was only a few losses. I dont see why there is so much "fear" of mp5, when people who have been there so long get beaten up as much, or in some cases more than the new mp5's. What would you say exatly the fear is? because if its of "being attacked" then you surely havent learnt how to make rits...
  28. 0 points
    Kafuuka

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    [quote name='Udgard' timestamp='1294289185' post='76925'] You're supposed to stay mp4 just for a while, to age/upgrade some creatures to prepare for mp5. Once you've aged your creatures, go and move on to mp5. And no, people are not supposed to wait for their angiens to have max age before going mp5..[/quote] Rubish. There is no statement anywhere that says you are supposed to become mp5 at all, let alone that you are supposed to 'only stay mp4 for a while', whatever the heck a while might be defined as. I think the most official statement by Mur is 'not everybody has the patience to reach mp5', but my memory isn't all that good. [quote] I think lately there has been to many illusions of "mp5s/vets only wanting to get more people to move up so they can pound them". [/quote] I think lately mp5 live in the illusion that anything they say is true and thus that the idea that anyone should be mp5 is true too. Seriously, who is it that tells us that mp5 is hard? Who is it that posts here that mp4 and mp3 is being abused by alts using whatever means. What is the maximum level the 'mains' of the abusers have? It is all mp5. That doesn't mean all mp5s are bad though, that's never what anyone wished to claim. I don't even claim all mp5s who want to stop the alleged (and plausible) abuse on mp3 are trying to gain an advantage at mp5. I claim that it gains more than half of its support on the forum from mp5s who are indeed evil greedy and shortsighted people. I claim that nobody who has never had an mp5 account, supports this idea.
  29. 0 points
    No one

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    WARNING: Long post below!!! [quote name='I am Bored' timestamp='1293647247' post='76307'] I would agree with most of the things on here, except the bit about MAGIC ctc's, because those are hard to get as it is, and should be allowed to be an exception to the rule. I must also dissagree with no one's suggestion, because lowering creatures like that would cause other problems as well, because you would be reducing the xp of an mp4, to far below the level of an mp3, and that would allow for even more building of powerful creatures at a lower mind power level. [/quote] dude, what ... ? what do you mean by - "you would be reducing the xp of an mp4, to far below the level of an mp3" - "and that would allow for even more building of powerful creatures at a lower mind power level" "Magic" ctc creature should have the option of "activate" and be left unusable. "Activate" meaning that it will receive the limitation of the current MP, allowing a player to get a max Drach (for example) in MP3 and use it at MP5. [quote name='HeHelpedMe' timestamp='1294285609' post='76923'] I strongly dislike the idea of that kind of requirement. ... And that should be enough for most of the players. In my opinion, the true problem which leads to alt abuse is the existence of alts. ... Mp3 and mp4 just need to quickly get to mp5 and be farmed and grinded into cat food by the "vets". [/quote] Get serious ppl, I think this is the only game with no requirements what so ever. This is why a new player start gathering creatures in first week without even understanding what combat means. The whole creature limitation is for new ppl to learn as a normal player should do and to have a chance to get in touch with all lvl of all creatures. Also, the limitation will also reduce the gaps between players in same MP (MP3 / MP4). At this moment MP3s are asking for angiens. Do they know why ? I don't think so, but they've been told that they need some. NO THIS MUST BE STOPPED All players must use the creatures that they can get themselves or use them when they become available. There are MP4/5 players that don't even know the maxed knator as they never had one. When this would be implemented , I do agree that a period of time to be given so that MP3s with angiens & max dracs to move to proper MP or to accept the limitations. Nobody is keeping / forbidding you to stay in lower MPs, but do stay at their level. Should I remind you about MP4s with 10k attack ? PPL this is for your own good, for MD's future.
  30. 0 points
    cutler121

    Security Letters Not Recognized

    [quote name='Rendril' timestamp='1294298197' post='76937'] The captcha was stripped down a lot to make it more readable, would it help if the letters were bigger? [/quote] LOL The capcha which finally let me in was: KY and when I got that I slipped right in. Cutler PS. For those of you who still don't get it, KY jelly is a medical lubricant used for digital rectal exams and often used as a sexual lubricant as well.
  31. -1 points
    dst

    Abuse Of Silence Spell

    *cough* 2 years old thread, RPCs are no more *cough* Oh...and in case you care/wonder/whatever and still live under those rules consider that I have been "punished" [quote]On the first offence, the player will be warned, telling them of what the spell is meant for.[/quote] Now...wait for me to shut you up few more times. Or if you are impatient...well..there are ways to "get ride of me". Thank you for your attention and have a good night
  32. -1 points
    No one

    Abuse Of Silence Spell

    [quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' timestamp='1294261785' post='76883'] dst abusing [color=#4b0082][silence][/color] spell on me for entirely personal/subjective reasons [/quote] This is so much fun. I haven't had that much fun on forum since ... I don't remmember. This is really fun. So: Considering your image, who else should be punished ? Let me count : Ravenstrider as a revengeful friend 1. posted in chat the spell -> first warning 2. no reason for using spell -> second warning 3. trying to silence an LHO -> I forgot, what was the punishment for this ? you, Princ Rhaegar: 1. Just report it, to proper LHO, attacking the image of LHO is bad 2. posting images with that spell in clear is bad (1-2 warnings as it is on forum) 3. so what ? do you want some more ? [img]http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif[/img] Do consider all the consequences before you posting / answer on forum.
  33. -1 points
    No one

    Abuse Of Silence Spell

    oh, I see yea, 167 of activity days means he is "unexperienced". and ... you ... for your 722 active days ... I will say that you are "unexperienced" because you missed that thing in the picture then me, "No One" / "the young unexperianced player" might just want to check some words too that is fun, really then if he can do it , so can I as of now .... I am a new in MD, youupee
  34. -1 points
    Mr Mystery

    WTS Assorted

    Nope, another last min bid made it. I cross out as sold when trade is over.
  35. -1 points
    dst

    Happy Birthday Voldon and Mysecka

    Mysecka stopped playing a long time ago. We DO NOT open B-day topics for MIA players!
  36. -1 points
    cutler121

    Security Letters Not Recognized

    [quote name='Rendril' timestamp='1294319217' post='76958'] @cutler: I got the reference, bigger letters mean you might need to use more [/quote] Yeah don't I know. No problem with size here Cutler
  37. -1 points
    Kafuuka

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    @Burns: Once again I reiterate that I do not think your proposal is effective to stop or even diminish the pwning of noobs. Alts have access to better training schemes, better ritual knowledge and better creatures. Your proposal is to cut down a small part of the better creature department. A 'typical' mp3 according to the mp3 to mp4 half life time of about one week, will not be able to naturally age an elemental to max level. That infamous nightmare ritual is not even an option unless they either trade for an aged elemental. Except they don't know what they would need it for nor do they know its market value or have anything to trade with unless they invested in the shop. See, unless spoilers occurred or they invested in the shop, they wouldn't even know how long they would have to wait. [quote name='No one' timestamp='1294395688' post='77019'] I did, so many times, tried to reason with young players. The problem is that you have to raise him to your lvl to make him understand. Otherwise he does not (want to ) understand. If I would have liked to do that I would have been an LHO. [/quote] Patronizing eh? [b]I sure hope that was a joke of yours, a bad one that nobody is laughing at and hey look I can use bold font and look like I [i]know[/i] that I am smarter than you too. I don't even need to make my text bigger in size for it.[/b] Now please don't make me switch to your lvl anymore, I don't quite enjoy it.
  38. -1 points
    Burns

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    Due to once again increasing problems, i, again, want to propose an idea to stop alts from bashing on newbies. Since GGG ceased, there are only minor problems with monstrous stats left, and people now take their massively aged, tokened and traded creatures and transfer them to mp3 to create new god accounts. So now, instead of banning certain creatures from certain mps, i'd like to implement MP-level as an upgrade requirement for creatures in general. The most important to me appear to be angiens, which should get requirement mp4 for level 3+ and mp5 for level 6+, drachorns, with mp4 for level 3+ and specially the rusts and reins, and probably other crit-boosters, with way steeper requirements, probably mp4 for lvl 2+ and mp5 for level 4+. Existing creature of that kind would either need to be downgraded, or the holders put on the matching mp-level. MAGIC-ctcs would need to be un-MAGIC-ed when they are transferred to an account that doesn't have the mp-requirement necessary to hold that creature, but only as far as the level is concerned. Like, if such is possible, they could well keep their age, xp and wins, as long as they get downgraded to the highest level accessible to the account in question. Plus, Mur, i ask you personally to take a stand on that matter. Not the technical aspects or about starting to get nit-picky about what creatures should have what mp-requirement, but a general opinion on the matter of overly well equipped accounts in newbie-levels. I hate not knowing what's on your mind =P
  39. -2 points
    Udgard

    MP-Level as upgrade requirement

    [quote name='HeHelpedMe' timestamp='1294285609' post='76923'] I wasn't supposed to post any message in this section again, but... I still care about what happens to MD so here goes. I strongly dislike the idea of that kind of requirement. I don't have any alts myself and I'm not going to create one ever. I have only my main account and that's really enough. And that should be enough for most of the players. In my opinion, the true problem which leads to alt abuse is the existence of alts. Seriously, how many alts were actually meant for creating another character for role playing needs? 10 percent? Doubt it, probably even less. All the rest is used for storing additional creatures, goofing around and for all kinds of so called "alt abuse". And now you're planning to mess up the gameplay even more with those restrictions. So me and many other players at mp3 and mp4 levels, who don't have alts and don't abuse any MD rules will have to face the consequences. [b]All the bored mp5s who send their drachs and other monstrosities to their mp3/mp4 alts will be fine, as their mp5 main won't face any restrictions.[/b] I'm at mp4 and don't want to progress to mp5. I have few Angiens which were obtained legally and I put a lot of time and effort into training them. And now me and other players who don't have any alts are going to be punished with severe creature downgrade because of abuse done by others? Excellent... I've noticed that most of the ideas and changes are only mp5 friendly. [b]Mp3 and mp4 just need to quickly get to mp5 and be farmed and grinded into cat food by the "vets".[/b] [/quote] In response to the bolded statements: I believe the reason the requirements was proposed works two ways: to prevent alts to get monstrous creatures, and to discourage non-alts to stay too long. Alt or no alt, no one is supposed to stay on mp3/mp4 for prolonged time just to get strongest there. MP5 is the fighting stage, people are allowed to stay long on mp3/mp4, but it is not meant to be a fighting stage. People who stay there for prolonged time mostly has two reasons: either they are not focused on the combat aspect of MD, or they want to be kings of mp3/4. The first one, I don't think will object much to the proposed requirements, and for the second: mp3/4 is not a combat stage and you're not supposed to stay there with godlike creatures/stats to pound on newbies anyways. There is the third one: people who stay there to prepare for the mp5 jungle, but then again that is the reason for the requirements. You're supposed to stay mp4 just for a while, to age/upgrade some creatures to prepare for mp5. Once you've aged your creatures, go and move on to mp5. And no, people are not supposed to wait for their angiens to have max age before going mp5.. I think lately there has been to many illusions of "mp5s/vets only wanting to get more people to move up so they can pound them". The thing is, staying mp3/mp4 for eternity won't help people prepare to fight the "vets". People at mp5 has access to much faster stat growth than an mp3/4 can ever hope for, so the longer people stay there, the wider the gap between power they will have. And really, what can those so called vets do to pound on fresh mp5s that has actual consequence to those fresh ones? Combat losses are needed for balance, and tree rits easily prevent damage to your main army.
  40. -2 points
    dst

    IP Ban

    That's why usually Mur bans an entire class and cases like this happen. So unless you have nothing better to say please stop spamming the forum.
×
×
  • Create New...