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  1. 4 points
    Akasha

    Creative Punishment

    I am against this idea, it will not be a fair one. Proof: Let's take Rednecks case...yeah we all don't like him, he may or many NOT done something, there is not an existing proof. (beside being annoying) He asked, like many others if he can have a trip and Grido tricked him. He is in jail on no reason, (based on Mur's rules that you seem to want to respect so badly), thou the 'community '/jurry voted to keep him there, and came with 'inventive punishments'. The judge in this case was Grido who put him there, also by not respecting the rule we got told regarding the ban spell : "no trips allowed". Conclusion: if someone is not liked, then the community acts without thinking at what rules they break when there is no prof or reason to punish someone. He got judge on 'do we like him or not' not on "on what reason he got the ban in that night" Nobody is neutral. And the only judge is Mur and i think he is the most fair when it comes to this.
  2. 4 points
    Tarquinus

    Creative Punishment

    I have to agree with Burns - the whole courtroom/trial idea as proposed makes me very, very leery. A fair trial in a mixed-age, multicultural, international internet community such as MD is more or less impossible, and only Mur* has the right, in my opinion, to render a verdict or issue a punishment with reference to player behavior. Quite apart from the issue of fairness is the matter of bureaucracy. The proposed system involves a lot of people and presupposes they have the time and interest to do something completely other than what they presumably came to MD to do: have fun. Nothing about bureaucracy or the work it entails is fun. No - just, no. The idea of creative punishments is another matter. I'd like to hear more discussion on that, please. Some of the ideas put forth sound pretty amusing. *or one of his chosen surrogates, such as Grido, Akasha, et al. [b]Edited for clarity[/b]
  3. 3 points
    Asterdai

    Creative Punishment

    ...well im not going to say Anything about that last post.. at all But there is something i would like to say in regards to Creative punishments! In our midsts there is a persistant offender who has plagued MD for me, in all of my existence, and little has ever been said.. picture the scene.. The golden orange evening sun is shimmering and its glow seems to bounce off the water, onto the deep green fronds of the willow branch. The branch dangles dreamily to the lake, it seemed as if it was willow himself was touching the water with his own long slender finger tip. an idilic moment... and Thats when it happens! You feel a force in your face pushing at your mouth and you clam your eyes shut in shock. Like two pulsating tenticles, the lips smother you and slurper. You darent open your eyes let alone breath, and then thank god it gives way. This time the lips like two slugs, slowly pluck themselves away from you face and you bring your arm up to soak up the slime. O.o if is someone like um - kiss rapes you persistently, what should be the punishment??!! i could try to message the offender *ahem mentioning no names!* from lots of alts bombarding them Hahahhaha mm that would take too long... or um maybe i should name and shame and get everyone to change their PL about the offender into a kiss, wait..they'd like that!? and this goes out to all those people who "say hello" by jumping on my back! im thinking up something evil to do to you too! (i decided to make a story, see its "creative" punishments )
  4. 3 points
    Ok, I think some people have hit the nail on the head here. A fight imo, is when two people actually exchange blows. This happens let me see....never.. against certain people around. I don't call getting wiped out before I even strike a fight. That's shooting ducks in a barrel as far as I'm concerned. If your one of those people and that's what you get your kicks from, then good luck to ya. Personally I couldn't care less. On a practical note though I don't actually see the point. I'm not sure what a person learns by such an experience except perhaps the power of fully token critters or certain players. I'm also intrigued at how a game that is not supposed to be about the fighting system seems somehow to constantly revolve around it.
  5. 3 points
    Burns

    Creative Punishment

    "Behavior Modification Program" connected with trials rang some unpleasant bells, so i might be reading that whole topic from a completely wrong point of view, but i'm simply against any of those ideas There are no fair trials whe the jury is the community, they are also not fair when Mur or Grido are playing Inquisition, but at least they consider things in peace and quiet, it's really easy to swing the mood of the mob to get whatever result you want -.- Apart from that, i was expecting something completely different from that topic xD I think Mur has a nice idea with the curse, though it should probably be extended for a longer time, or any other accounts of the cursed ones should be inaccessible for the time of the curse or something... (i also think anybody who has an account in jail shouldn't be allowed to log in on another account for that time, but that's another issue) As another idea i could imagine taking away all the creatures 'cept for the weakest one from the account that is to be punished for the time s/he spends on cutlers 'stock', which obviously comes with considerable age-loss, which surely is a punishment most people wouldn't want to provoce On the slightly more evil side: Permanent ToadSpeak and inability to send PMs would punish those who don't care about their creatures pretty effectively imo *harhar* and of course, repeating myself, anybody who has a punished account shouldn't be allowed to access another account, else the whole punishment-character is simply a joke, as IaB proved several times -.-
  6. 2 points
    Not sure I like the idea too much. If you want to establish one, sure, go ahead, but I would like to say my opinion goes towards Burns' direction. Also, creative punishments..which kind of those can you create without their consent? You cannot touch their creatures, you cannot touch their stats (if they decide to save them, unless you have admin tools and abuse them), you cannot touch their papers (only PL..which wouldnt be the best place to spam at), you cannot restrict their movement (spells only work for so long), so what is left? Usually the best people can come up with is things like regen or so, I don't see many things you could do here. If otherwise, please enlighten me.
  7. 1 point
    phantasm

    Recruitment Flier

    After many trials and tribulations, the Caretakers are now back on their feet. Upon this, I am opening up this alliance for recruitment. Though it is now opened, there are very strict requirements that must be met. I have a severe dislike for people who just want in an alliance for the tag or for the attack cool-down bonus. I am only interested in those of you who have the wish to be a role-model of the alliance and what it stands for. After losing the alliance, and getting it back, I am now also extra cautious of those who would like to see themselves as leaders of the alliance. I assure you that any attempts as such will be dealt with in a swift and severe manner. The Caretaker's are not all work, and no play though. Me and Rakaustan are constantly planning and plotting ideas of things for the alliance to do once we get it in swing. I can assure you that crazy antics, drinking, jokes, and possible death is all part of the whole. There will be tasks that need completed, and entertainment to put on for the populations of MD. The Lands of the East, or the Tribunal, needs constant attention in the hopes that we will learn more about the place. In hopes that with enough care we will find new doors to open, and new places to visit as time goes along. With joining this alliance you will find a new home, new friends, and new family. A wide land lay open to us to explore, learn, teach, play, and work. I hope that when you join you will find the life as wonderful as I find it. Requirements for the Caretakers follow as such: 1. You must be MP4 or higher. You can apply as an adept or a "trainee" at MP3, but you will not be allowed into the alliance until such time as me and the others in the alliance see fit. Trust me this is for your own good more so then any other reason. 2a. You must read and understand http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/5198-caretakers-alliance/. 2b. You must agree and follow the ideology of the alliance. The alliance is centered around Role Playing, and a very specific role playing. I wouldn't go as far to say the alliance is evil, but it certainly isn't good. Your RP style should be one that compliments the dark nature of Caretakers. 3. You will at all times treat others with respect. Even when torturing or finding inventive ways of killing them. Just because they are having their toes pulled off their feet one by one doesn't mean they shouldn't be respected. 4. No foul language!!!! MD is a game for all ages. Foul language will not be tolerated at all. There will be few warnings on this matter before you find yourself on the wrong end of the chopping block. Once your application is approved, you will have to go through a small ceremony and initiation as the rest of the alliance members did. Once you are denied, there are VERY FEW chances of you ever being able to overturn the decision. We are looking for a very specific brand of people. If you are not that brand, or you are known for your trouble making (in the bad way, not the good way), please do not be offended. Feel free to PM me in game or post under this section. *edited-added and revised*
  8. 1 point
    Jubaris

    Editing Calendar

    I proposed this to Akasha, cause she wanted to continue the work on calendar, but I got no reply, so I want to ask community what they think of this and will there be any voluenters (except me ) I would love to see that the calendar has dates of MD former events, anniversaries if you want, for example: that day and month - creation of Necrovion Sentinels, Crowning of King Lifeline, peace-treaty of whatever... Festival anniversary... anything really so the goal is to have MD calendar full of MD events, not of RL mythology, cause what makes Greek mythology more important to realm of MD then, I don't know, Slavic? So calendar is a great thing but I don't like it showing events from Egyptian, Greek, Roman culture, I want use to make it MD-like
  9. 1 point
    Rendril

    Function: Mds_Creature_Icon

    [b]null[/b] mds_creature_icon(int|string $id, string $attributes); Will echo an image icon of the creature matching the ID if it is valid otherwise it will give a missing creature message. The image is echoed directly by the function, there is only a null value returned. Since it is a direct echo rather than a string, your HTML code will need ot be wraped around it. The paramter sent is the creature ID, not the CTC. It can be found under the creature in the creature menu. Example: HTML[code] <form method="post" action=""> Enter CTC to see the creature's day of birth<br /> <input name="ctc" type="text" /><br /> <br /> <input name="submit" type="submit" value="Submit"/><br /> <br /> <font size="1px">*Copy from "CTC" to "MDC", not the entire code</font> </form> [/code] Script [code] echo @content[0]; //show the html if(isset(@input['submit']))//check that button was clicked { //get the creature data @vc= mds_is_ctc(@input['ctc']); //check whether ctc is va.lid if(@vc) { @vb = strtoupper("b");//i'm lazy //get birth timestamp @vt = @vc["date" . @vb . "orn"]; //print the day the creature was born echo "<hr />" . @vb . "orn on " . date("l", @vt) . "<br />"; //show creature icon mds_creature_icon(@vc['id'], "id='creature'"); echo "<hr />"; } else { echo "inva"."lid ctc supplied"; } } [/code]
  10. 1 point
    Jubaris

    Land Winderwilds.

    well, I was just goofing around, but, I think Mur said creatures are in your head... so it doesn't matter where do you recruit them, they don't simbolize the land (except maybe Lorerootian Archer, cause of the name but that's it...)
  11. 1 point
    Jubaris

    Editing Calendar

    to be more specific, what I meant was not to post events like "dismissal of the RPCs" or any system feature, but something showing political state of the players in the realm, creation of organizations/guilds/alliances, wars, peaces, (ok, I'm repeating myself) it would be perfect to "dig up" information about realm's history, where else will you find it? reading every forum post, MD archive article and yet still having to speak with other people? like Rendril said, Master Core information would be stored also in a clickable... to decide what goes into the realm, well, you should have objective people on it, to post every event that had great consequences, and to ask community (public vote) for posting others... it can be worked out easily, we just all need to agree first to start this
  12. 1 point
    pamplemousse

    Creative Punishment

    Sorry, apophys, I think the Forum should be the [b]LAST [/b]place to conduct a trial. First, they would never end, look at some of these topics that have drawn out for too long, people have lost interest and frankly, nothing gets accomplished. Punishments should be swift, decisive and brutal. Also, in-game matters, in my opinion, should be dealt with in-game. The Forum should be a suppliment, not a replacement to MD.
  13. 1 point
    phantasm

    Recruitment Flier

    Application form should look something like this Name: Phantasm the Tormented MP-Class: MP5 Age: 292 active days Main Principle: Darkness Reason for applying: Because I love this bar.
  14. 1 point
    By not beeing egocentric
  15. 0 points
    lightsage

    Land Winderwilds.

    Not to mention completely overpowered towards LR....
  16. 0 points
    [quote name='Firsanthalas' date='05 January 2010 - 11:22 AM' timestamp='1262708569' post='51910'] I'm also intrigued at how a game that is not supposed to be about the fighting system seems somehow to constantly revolve around it. [/quote] The fighting system is a large portion of the game, and a brilliantly unique one at that. I'm less concerned about the focus on battles and more so on the fact that the system itself seems to have gotten away from its original intent to be intellectually challenging, strategic, and, most importantly, fair. Now, it's easy to complain about fairness when you're unwilling or unable to spend the time and/or money to compensate, and obviously those who do would also have an argument if the current system were changed to reduce or remove their advantage. However, I recall a year or so ago when time and financial resources were secondary to a firm grasp of game mechanics, and I'm a little disappointed in the players who would value power over interesting and unique gameplay. The fact that the majority of the posters in this thread rarely see a duel last longer than 0 rounds is unsurprising, but I am slightly taken aback that they (for the most part) see no problem with this.
  17. 0 points
    redneck

    Creative Punishment

    look whos talking fenrir,your the nitwit....your the one that stole art from thre internet and if that arthor found out md would have got in trouble cause of you so dont talk about nitwits inless you include yourself
  18. 0 points
    Burns

    C'est Impossible!

    Just as a note: I could care less what mp4 do to each other, that's kinda their own problem, and same goes for aged mp3, but taking away massive ammounts of VP from a _starter_, as in less than 5 active days, is screwing them in a way that simply makes them quit for good... It's a different case when people need to wait for age on their crits and stuff, but when they don't even HAVE crits, or need to get them upgraded to keep on playing and get a grip on the basic fighting mechanics, then, and only then, they need protection from negative VP Turning down negative crit-xp for mp3 might be a nice idea, those alts can screw any creature that is not yet maxed beyond repair, and the players suffering from that might quit as they advance to mp4 when they don't see much of a chance to defeat anybody anymore... But I think that you can win on mp4 with level 1 crits as well, specially with SG still kinda-alive that shouldn't be too much of an issue
  19. 0 points
    Fenrir Greycloth

    Creative Punishment

    The Trial System in place is meant for major abuses. I doubt Mur has the time to go through every trial that may or may not need to happen. This is a community project, not an official program. If Mur supports this idea, and agrees to the punishments, then awesome, but I want people to keep in mind that the punishments that will happen, should be kept to the means capable by those involved. (Or perhaps requests be made to Mur for certain punishments) Edit: Forgot to respond to the rest of your post... We need a system set up to decide the offenders punishment, to make it fair, and not to extreme.
  20. 0 points
    CrazyMike

    Creative Punishment

    I thought the thread was on Creative Punishment. The points seem to be concentrated on the Trial. Are we looking at the trial system that is already in place?
  21. 0 points
    Fenrir Greycloth

    Creative Punishment

    I agree whole heartedly with Pample. The forum is NOT a replacement for MD. It is a tool. The Hearings could be held in the Gazebo of Chaos, or perhaps in the Tainted Library...
  22. 0 points
    apophys

    Creative Punishment

    I recommend trials be conducted on the forums, so that a trial proceeds swiftly, not having to wait until several unique people come online (which could be abused by the defender). A bonus would be to deter rash decisions and promote transparency. Courtroom logs would automatically be saved. A minimum of staff would be necessary this way; several trials could proceed at once (if need be), and timezones are irrelevant.
  23. 0 points
    pamplemousse

    Creative Punishment

    How will you chose the Judge, Jury, etc?
  24. 0 points
    Fenrir Greycloth

    Creative Punishment

    Please do not start volunteering for anything quite yet. I want to see what others think before we start volunteering for positions. But, I will keep your idea in mind, Apophys. Thank you for your offer.
  25. 0 points
    apophys

    Editing Calendar

    I think everyone should have for himself a note on the calendar of their own account's birthday, but nobody else's. And double bonus for the day. Minor MD events have the changelog for that. No need to put them in the calendar. A few major things that don't change, like the anniversary of MD itself, need to be remembered, IMHO. Otherwise, the calendar's good as it is (just needs finishing).
  26. 0 points
    phantasm

    Sparring Grounds

    As you now see Shadowseeker it is not an easy task to conduct the park. You were the one to bring up the idleness of the Dojo, and its many flaws. You took it over, fired the staff, and created the Sparring Ground with great ideals. In my opinion the Dojo was ran much better. For a long time, until Calyx left the game, the dojo was well staffed, and fairly well coniditioned. Not only was it a place to train, but a main hub of RP for the newer players coming in. It became a place for idle players to gain losses twards the end of its Dojo days, and seem little different now. I do not bring this up as your failings. You are a great warrior, a good quest creator, and a good friend to the community as a whole. I simple hope that you will not be so quick to judge those that attempted to run the Dojo.
  27. -1 points
    Jubaris

    Sparring Grounds

    there are some number of helping mp6s that are around Marble Dale often (I go there from time to time but I can go often, I see Peace there often, I'm sure MasterB will come around if needed), so maybe protectors can organize and take care of the Park? healing spells, advices (they're all veteran of course)...?
  28. -1 points
    Rendril

    Music On Comment On Self Page

    What is the file type that you want to play? The below code should work for most, replace SONG_URL with your file's path, it should work in most browsers. [code]<embed src="SONG_URL.mp3" hidden="true" /> <noembed><bgsound src="SONG_URL.mp3" /></noembed>[/code]
  29. -1 points
    Fenrir Greycloth

    Creative Punishment

    Apophys, you draw a good point, but I left out the defense purposely. The people who are friends of the people who would be subject to MITTENs are either similar to the defendant, or are not willing to jeopardize themselves. I do not agree with forcing people to defend the Defendant either...
  30. -1 points
    Fenrir Greycloth

    Creative Punishment

    I suppose a public vote shall be viable, but that depends on how the MITTENs takes hold. It may become a committee, or it may be a case by case scenario since personal conflicts are possible. EDIT: This is not something I will do, but us as a community. I would like to see this become an integral part of the control of a certain type of behaviour.
  31. -1 points
    Astral

    Creative Punishment

    on last thing on this trials what would judges base upon to give a verdict who would decide what crime is to become before a judge and wich isn't we do not have a law or anything like that... and if judge and jury can descide... well people put in power are easily corupt and emotions arn't a good advisor but both will happen... there was enough comotion about the 'attack' on the gates of the necro what would happen if this was the case every day over a judge sending one to jail... it would destroy MD Mankind needs structure power and coruption to survive we are making the same mistakes building this comunity as we did in building the comunity in RL... I tough MD was a escape from reality but were doing the same thing here trying to create an Utopia by putting everyone who reacts in a wrong way or bahaves in a wrong way in jail and that isn't a solution... and mostly the ones pointing at other ones have done worse things... this does not mean i agree with al that has happened the last couple months it is true there has been more 'bad' behaviour, and this isn't wat we want people to see when they com to this place I think if nesecery to jail people as mentioned before if 1 of alts is in jail you are unable to log in into other accounts people doing wrong thing are half of the times a cry for atention who are we to punish them... and talking of torture or behaviour modification... realy?!
  32. -1 points
    What MP level are you? 5 Are you in an alliance? Yes How long does a serious fight (a real fight/duel, not giving out bursts or GGG trainings) usually take you? 0 (yeah, really ) How many rounds do you usually think is a "long duel"? 1 (This is VERY rare... xD)
  33. -2 points
    apophys

    Creative Punishment

    There needs to be a defense attorney. People cannot always defend themselves very well and may stir negative emotion from the mob. I think this was a problem in Rex's trial.
  34. -2 points
    apophys

    Creative Punishment

    Then I volunteer for the position.
  35. -4 points
    Fenrir Greycloth

    Creative Punishment

    So, we have seen several players throughout MD who have no regard for any of the rules set up by Mur, or the Community. We can't ban them permanently, but we can do the next best thing! So... I bring you the... [center][b]The MagicDuel Behavior Modification Program:[/b][/center] Or... [b]MagicDuel Inhumane Tickle Torture for Extreme Nitwits[/b]! [The Name is Subject to Change] The Purpose: To embarrass, humiliate, and punish the individuals amongst us that annoy us with their disregard for anyone else but themselves. The Goal: To humiliate the subjects of MITTENs to the point where they learn to be more docile, and become integrated within our society(if all goes well) or they get tired of the MITTENs program and become hermits(leave). The Way: Using the current system of holding Trials(rarely ever held but still current), we hold public court hearings with a judge(a neutral person), a jury(our Community), Prosecuter(someone responsible for bringing the unjust behaviours of the Defendant to light) and the Defendant. Last, but not least, the Executioner. The prosecutor will try the Defendant, let them plea their case, and defend themselves while the Jury sits quiet. Once the prosecutor and defendant are finished, the Jury has their turn to ask the Defendant questions about their behaviour, offenses, and items of relevance. Once this stage is finished, the Judge, the Jury, and the Prosecutor retire and converse about the trial, and come up with a suitable punishment. The Executioner shall uphold the punishment suitable to the case. How: The Judge must be able to separate him or herself from emotions, but still be able to think rationally. These people are few and far in between. So, we must choose carefully on who the Judge may be. The Prosecutor must be able to bring evidence, witnesses, and proof that the Defendant is guilty. The Jury must be able to think creatively, and constructively when deciding whether the Defendant is guilty, or whether the evidence is powerful enough to bring about a punishment. Edit: Please tell me what you think, any suggestions, and any constructive criticism is MORE than welcome!
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